Players on the lash

[Big Ernie McCracken]

If this is indeed true, then discipline at this club is a joke.

You can`t stop players going out for a drink, they are subject to the same contract law as the rest of us, however going for a drink is one thing and getting leathered and having a punch up is another...don`t confuse the two situations and always think the worst

 

[Big Ernie McCracken]

Coxy was 'out' with a "virus" a few weeks ago. Turns out a girl in a bar in Haywards Heath slammed a bar stool on his foot in full public view.

Still think it doesn't impact on the field?

what a pathetic comment, if you are trouble like Coxy when you go out then you are going to get aggro wherever you go, bar pub, macdonalds etc

 

[clapham_gull]

How much did any of them have? a pint or two, or were they completely w@nkered? can't they have a pint or 2 and still be fine to train the next day or does alcohol affect footballers differently to the rest of the human race?

So are all professional athletes banned from drinking during their careers because it affects their performances too much (rugby, cricket, etc)?

and since when has having a beer or too several days before a match ever prevented anyone from performing well - and would George Best been a better player if he was teetotal?

Also, if anyone who posts on here has a bad day at work, should they be banned from drinking as it may affect their performance the following day?

Because it isn't the 1970s anymore and alcohol.

A "beer or two" probably won't have a massive adverse effect a long time before a game, but athletes (if they drink), tend to binge drink, since there is only a small window of opportunity.

Can't really see how you equate the general experience of work these days for most people with playing a game of football at the highest level.

Odd.

On the basis that I have absolutely no evidence whether our players are often out on the piss, I talk in general terms.

We are all expected to pay much more for football in real terms and the players these days also get paid more in real terms, even at this level.

The clubs invest in specialist equipment, staff and training to adhance the players fitness which helps to extend their careers. Rather than the magic sponge and a steroid injection, the clubs also pay for specialist and expensive hospital treatment and reabillitation than enables footballers to recover from injuries that in the past would have ended their careers prematurely.

In view of the above, I would like to think that footballers keep their side of the bargain and not go out on the lash at all during the season. It's hardly the behaivour of an athlete.

Undoubtedly George Best would have been an even better player than he was(and enjoyed a much longer career) if he hadn't pissed it down the gutter.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

.........In view of the above, I would like to think that footballers keep their side of the bargain and not go out on the lash at all during the season. It's hardly the behaivour of an athlete.

But playing professional football is a job and their employer doesn't require them to do this - so there is no such bargain?
However, the biochemical screening and testing that the players undergo as part of their training regime will pick up if they've been drinking the day before and for that they will get fined, suspended etc.

 

[clapham_gull]

But playing professional football is a job and their employer doesn't require them to do this - so there is no such bargain?
However, the biochemical screening and testing that the players undergo as part of their training regime will pick up if they've been drinking the day before and for that they will get fined, suspended etc.

I didn't mention anything to do with contracts but I speak more in what I would expect as an employer of a professional athlete.

There are things I'm expected to do and ways I'm expected to behave, but aren't neccesarily written in my contract. I can break them all the time I wish, but wouldn't neccesarily expect a new one.

It's just my opinion.

For what's it's worth, I'd ban alcohol completely and put it in the contract. It removes the grey area.

As, you say I doubt whether the players are doing such things.

 

[brighton_girl87]

I think Harry Redknapp has the right idea -
Harry Redknapp to ban players drinking at Tottenham - Telegraph

 

[BensGrandad]

Do BHA actually have a binge drinking problem or is it a case of players having the odd drink on a night off, as a lot of people do when not working.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

If it is the case then it's not a very profesional attitude from supposed professional players.

They are professionals arent they?

 

[Brovion]

We had this debate before and my view was that, no, players are NOT allowed normal lives. They aren't allowed full Christmas dinner with all the drink and trimmings when they've got to play on Boxing Day and this is just an extension of this. They are professional footballers and their bodies are the tools of their trade, and pouring alcohol into them is like putting diesel into a Formula One car (That was first said by Rafa Benitez commenting on the drinking culture in English football). You'd have thought that professional pride and the fact that being third division footballers they're really not that good would encourage them to look for every possible advantage they could give themselves in their careers, but I suppose the culture's too ingrained now.

However in the case of the current Brighton sqad they don't seem to care so I don't see why I should. Let them get pissed every night.

 

[Husty]

Do BHA actually have a binge drinking problem or is it a case of players having the odd drink on a night off, as a lot of people do when not working.

They always seemed to go out on a Tuesday night as wednesday is their day off which i have no issue with but when you have played absolute shit and ruined a lot of peoples weekends earlier that day to then go out and get pissed is just unprofessional

 

[sydney]

We had this debate before and my view was that, no, players are NOT allowed normal lives. They aren't allowed full Christmas dinner with all the drink and trimmings when they've got to play on Boxing Day and this is just an extension of this. They are professional footballers and their bodies are the tools of their trade, and pouring alcohol into them is like putting diesel into a Formula One car (That was first said by Rafa Benitez commenting on the drinking culture in English football). You'd have thought that professional pride and the fact that being third division footballers they're really not that good would encourage them to look for every possible advantage they could give themselves in their careers, but I suppose the culture's too ingrained now.

However in the case of the current Brighton sqad they don't seem to care so I don't see why I should. Let them get pissed every night.

absofuckingloooootely...........aussie league,union and afl players have long term alcohol bans in place during the competetive season , you are simply unable to perform at your optimum level if you are on the piss every week,this is a medically proven fact, i realise this thread smells of handbags but fucksake,who do these ***** think they are , and what the f*** is happening if they are ALLOWED out on the piss after a home defeat. in a word UNPROFFESSIONAL....!!!!

 

[dwayne]

I believe there is a problem. In London you just do not see premiership players out in clubs during the season now, apart from Chelsea and Villa(!). Amazingly I think I've seen as many Brighton players out in clubs in London as I have any London based footballers.

With that in mind; I met Tommy Fraser out last season, he's good mates with Lee Hughes and was on a night out with him. When I said I was a Brighton fan, he asked me maybe 3 or 4 times whether I post on NSC and not to mention that I had seen him in a nightclub... so someone at the club must be monitoring this situation.

 

[strings]

In one respect I think that they should be allowed to do whatever they want if they don't have training the next day.

However. on the other hand, modern footballers have strictly controlled diets and puting a few pints of lager (200 carories a pint) down their necks really undermines the fact that they watch what they eat.

Not sure what to make of it all. Of course they probably shouldn't be expected to do full training the day after a match, but couldn't Slade have got them in fora massage, some light training, maybe some set-plays and to watch of a dvd of the match?

 

[Smythe]

They are proffesional footballers getting paid a lot more in a week than most of us on here to play a sport they love. Im my view they are privelidged to have the chance to do this and because of the nature of their jobs they should not be out on the piss!!!! Especially not in their home town in view of ppl who are are effectivly paying their wages after serving up the shit results they have been this season. I wouldnt have the audacity to be seen out in Brighton drinking after yet another shit home defeat.......as well as the fact there meant to be athletes looking after themselves......obviously not well enough going by recent results.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

They have no professional pride in my book and that the problem.

 

[Lokki 7]

These threads usually crop up when we are going through a bad run, never when we are doing well. Then again, when was the last time we were doing well? I can't remember.

Usually I would be on the side of the players in this debate but I think enough is enough. Something needs to change. Whether this report is true or not is almost irrelevant, the players should not be drinking alcohol at all in my view. Ban it Slade, and do it publicly so that players know they will be spotted and reported by the fans.

 

[pork pie]

Last night in Brighton, disgrace, they shouldn't be allowed out

I hope the beer tasted like piss! They ruined my weekend, why should they be happy?

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I think the difference is the fact that it was a heavy team night out. I don't think, no matter what the result/performance was, anyone objects to the lads going down their local or a pub somewhere in town on a Saturday and consuming alcohol.

But I think if they were having a night out in West Street that suggests there was something to celebrate (something that a lot of us can only manage maybe once a month in the current financial climate) then it takes the piss a bit.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Oh my god! I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread. At the end of the day, they're young guys who had a bad day at work, and have the next day of. I'm sure most (if not all) of you have had a bad day at the office and have gone for a glass of wine after (I know I do!). If they've got a day off, then of course they should be allowed to have a night out with the guys. Sure, falling out of bars would not be good, but for heaven's sake, let them have a LIFE.

 

[Common as Mook]

When we were storming through the league in 2000-2002, Bobby Zamora, Gary Hart, Matthew Wicks, Dirk Lehmann and Kerry Mayo were REGULARLY seen off their tits in The Beach of a Saturday night after a game.