Grombleton
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- Dec 31, 2011
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If it weren't for Baldock we may not have equalised. It's you who is struggling to be serious. Sure it wasn't his best game but to ignore his overall contribution is...well, stupid.
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If it weren't for Baldock we may not have equalised. It's you who is struggling to be serious. Sure it wasn't his best game but to ignore his overall contribution is...well, stupid.
Why is it that you clearly hate one of the players that plays week in week out for the club you support (that have been doing pretty well for the past 18 months as well) for no good reason and stick the boot in as soon as he has an off day (ie: doesn't score a goal)? Where were you when he was scoring goals? Did you come on here to give him credit for his performances? Did you ****. You were probably raging over the fact he had won us a game.. it's as if you actually want him to play badly.
I know you've had similar opinions of players like LuaLua, which is understandable because he blows hot and cold and genuinely looks like he could not give a **** sometimes, but Baldock always gives it his all and has been the perfect partner for GM this season; if he's good enough for Chris Hughton, he's good enough for me.
I thought Bong did quit well considering the opposition, 7
Alas, Dale Stephen no better than Rohan Ince could have done. 5. Murray 8 Stockdale 7. Bruno did not so much wrong 7. All the others 6
We all knew that any team managed by Bruce would battle for the ball.
I think a genuine speed merchant would have roasted those full backs. Solly March would have caused them more trouble.
Alas, Dale Stephen no better than Rohan Ince could have done. 5. Murray 8 Stockdale 7. Bruno did not so much wrong 7. All the others 6
We all knew that any team managed by Bruce would battle for the ball.
I think a genuine speed merchant would have roasted those full backs. Solly March would have caused them more trouble.
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neilbard
Hedging up
- Oct 8, 2013
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neilbard
Hedging up
- Oct 8, 2013
- 6,280
I'm not usually critical of Stockdale but this about sums last nights performance up!
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
- 4,083
Stockdale 8 - kept us in it. Hard to tell whether he should've done better with their goal but, personally, I think the touch was too late for him to really react to.
Bruno 7 - a decent if unspectacular game. His crossing was wasteful at times and he didn't get forward as much as normal.
Duffy 6 - looked nervous and ruffled at times. Got beaten in the air on a few too many occasions and gave the ball away in dangerous areas a couple of times too. The worst I've seen him play, so these things happen.
Dunk 7 - slightly better than his defensive partner, but still not quite at his usual standards.
Bong 5 - a poor game by his recent standards. Slowed the play down too much at times, partly because there wasn't enough movement from the forwards, partly because they closed him down well, and partly because he wasn't quick enough on the ball. Was also suspect defensively and allowed them to work too many crossing situations down his side.
Knockaert 4 - he had a bad game. It's the first one I've seen him have. Their left back is clearly a good player, and the stress of recent events must have taken its toll - quickly move on.
Sidwell 5 - missed two excellent opportunities in a tight game, gave the ball away stupidly at times, and found it difficult against their 3 in midfield. Particularly troubled when Grealish came on who found it far too easy to find space.
Stephens 6 - slightly better than Sidwell in terms of keeping possession, but still well below his recent standards.
Skalak 5 - unfortunately, Hughton got it totally wrong starting him. We didn't have enough of the ball high up the pitch for him to be effective. Totally wasted as a result. Worked hard defensively mind. Set piece delivery not up to its usual standard either.
Murray 8 - did as well as he could have with little help and support. A great goal too, but the team is crying out for a number 10 player in games like this to stop us getting overrun in midfield, with the result being a massive disconnect to our forwards.
Baldock 5 - started well but faded massively, assist aside. Should've been taken off much earlier than he was, for tactical reasons as much as anything. His closing down of the opposition is excellent, but his lack of game intelligence and varied movement when we have the ball is starting to become really troublesome and causes so many moves to break down where he should be an outlet but isn't offering a passing alternative for our defenders and midfielders.
Murphy 6 - came on and provided more than Baldock in terms of a direct alternative and a link to midfield, but the change was made far too late and Villa were on top by the time he came on.
Norwood 6 - a horrible game to come into with the team retreating so much already.
Hughton 6
Bruno 7 - a decent if unspectacular game. His crossing was wasteful at times and he didn't get forward as much as normal.
Duffy 6 - looked nervous and ruffled at times. Got beaten in the air on a few too many occasions and gave the ball away in dangerous areas a couple of times too. The worst I've seen him play, so these things happen.
Dunk 7 - slightly better than his defensive partner, but still not quite at his usual standards.
Bong 5 - a poor game by his recent standards. Slowed the play down too much at times, partly because there wasn't enough movement from the forwards, partly because they closed him down well, and partly because he wasn't quick enough on the ball. Was also suspect defensively and allowed them to work too many crossing situations down his side.
Knockaert 4 - he had a bad game. It's the first one I've seen him have. Their left back is clearly a good player, and the stress of recent events must have taken its toll - quickly move on.
Sidwell 5 - missed two excellent opportunities in a tight game, gave the ball away stupidly at times, and found it difficult against their 3 in midfield. Particularly troubled when Grealish came on who found it far too easy to find space.
Stephens 6 - slightly better than Sidwell in terms of keeping possession, but still well below his recent standards.
Skalak 5 - unfortunately, Hughton got it totally wrong starting him. We didn't have enough of the ball high up the pitch for him to be effective. Totally wasted as a result. Worked hard defensively mind. Set piece delivery not up to its usual standard either.
Murray 8 - did as well as he could have with little help and support. A great goal too, but the team is crying out for a number 10 player in games like this to stop us getting overrun in midfield, with the result being a massive disconnect to our forwards.
Baldock 5 - started well but faded massively, assist aside. Should've been taken off much earlier than he was, for tactical reasons as much as anything. His closing down of the opposition is excellent, but his lack of game intelligence and varied movement when we have the ball is starting to become really troublesome and causes so many moves to break down where he should be an outlet but isn't offering a passing alternative for our defenders and midfielders.
Murphy 6 - came on and provided more than Baldock in terms of a direct alternative and a link to midfield, but the change was made far too late and Villa were on top by the time he came on.
Norwood 6 - a horrible game to come into with the team retreating so much already.
Hughton 6
Jack Straw
I look nothing like him!
Agree totally. Stephens gave the ball away a few times towards the end of the match, but otherwise he first class.
Stockdale 7 Bit harsh to blame for goal. Ditribution very good.
Bong 5 Some good attacking but dire in defence. Didnt stop any crosses.
Dunk 8 Very good
Duffy 7 Good
Sidwell 5 Central midfield was dominated
Stevens 5 " " "
Knockhaert 4 Very poor apart from one outstanding pass diddnt do anything.
Murray 6 Marked up for goal and very poor in first half
Baldock 5 Apart from running around
Skalak 4 Offers nothing up front
No complaints point against a good side. Games like this do miss Kayal putting it about
Bong 5 Some good attacking but dire in defence. Didnt stop any crosses.
Dunk 8 Very good
Duffy 7 Good
Sidwell 5 Central midfield was dominated
Stevens 5 " " "
Knockhaert 4 Very poor apart from one outstanding pass diddnt do anything.
Murray 6 Marked up for goal and very poor in first half
Baldock 5 Apart from running around
Skalak 4 Offers nothing up front
No complaints point against a good side. Games like this do miss Kayal putting it about
Stockdale MOTM he was badly at fault for the first goal. He is a worry, several big mistakes have cost us games this season
n1 gull
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Striker scores goal but still gets slagged off, interesting.. I bet you weren't Gary Linekers biggest fan?
Stockdale 4
Bruno 6
Bong 5
Dunk 8 MOTM
Duffy 6
Stephens 6
Sidwell 6.5
Knockeart 5
Skalak 6.5
Baldock 6
Murray 7
Norwood 6
Murphy 6
Some interesting ratings from last night. Certainly not getting the high marks for Stockdale. Murray's fine strike should have been the opener and the games complete different.
To a lesser extent Duffy I thought it was his worst game for sometime.
Bruno 6
Bong 5
Dunk 8 MOTM
Duffy 6
Stephens 6
Sidwell 6.5
Knockeart 5
Skalak 6.5
Baldock 6
Murray 7
Norwood 6
Murphy 6
Some interesting ratings from last night. Certainly not getting the high marks for Stockdale. Murray's fine strike should have been the opener and the games complete different.
To a lesser extent Duffy I thought it was his worst game for sometime.
- Apr 13, 2015
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For me all 7 except:
Bong - 5 ( was all at sea )
Stephens - 4 ( already trfd in his head I think )
Knocky - 5 ( off the pace )
...and I am still not sure what Norwood brings to the party... he gets a 5.
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Bong - 5 ( was all at sea )
Stephens - 4 ( already trfd in his head I think )
Knocky - 5 ( off the pace )
...and I am still not sure what Norwood brings to the party... he gets a 5.
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I've seen better performances, but a point probably fair and we could easily have lost. We gave the ball away far far too often. And why do we always take off a striker and bring on a midfielder near the end when the game is on edge? All we do is invite pressure on our defence. Eight Villa corners in quick succession was the result today. Crazy!
Stockdale 7. One great save, OK distribution, could he have done better with the goal?
Bruno 7. Decent enough game, but not his best.
Dunk 8. Good performance. One run upfield near the end could have cost us.
Duffy 9. Excellent. MOM.
Bong 5. Not at his best defending or attacking.
Stephens 5. Guilty of giving the ball away far too often. A very poor game by his standards.
Sidwell 8. One of the best performances, but even he gave the ball away unnecessarily a couple of times.
Knockaert 6. Poor by his standards. Over elaborated when should have passed on too many occasions. Surprised he wasn't subbed earlier.
Skalak 7. OK performance.
Murray 8. Held the ball up well, great in the air, super goal.
Subs
Murphy 7. OK
Norwood 7. OK
Stockdale 7. One great save, OK distribution, could he have done better with the goal?
Bruno 7. Decent enough game, but not his best.
Dunk 8. Good performance. One run upfield near the end could have cost us.
Duffy 9. Excellent. MOM.
Bong 5. Not at his best defending or attacking.
Stephens 5. Guilty of giving the ball away far too often. A very poor game by his standards.
Sidwell 8. One of the best performances, but even he gave the ball away unnecessarily a couple of times.
Knockaert 6. Poor by his standards. Over elaborated when should have passed on too many occasions. Surprised he wasn't subbed earlier.
Skalak 7. OK performance.
Murray 8. Held the ball up well, great in the air, super goal.
Subs
Murphy 7. OK
Norwood 7. OK
This; in spades. You're about the only person who saw the same game I did. It's unusual for me to have such a different opinion from those with whom I tend to discuss the game afterwards, but last night I wondered if I was starting to totally lose any lingering ability to read a game. Your analysis has provided some comfort; thank you. Unless you're going mad too, of course.
Finchley Seagull
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As usual when we concede a goal, Stockdale must be blamed by some on here. You could argue he could have done better, although I think he was a bit unlucky personally. He then started the move for our goal with a very important interception at the feet of one of their players when the defence went to sleep and quick throw to Skalak. But I assume you must have been somewhere else at that point as you give him a 4.
He came for one cross and got nowhere near it but other than that had a very good game and made a very good save second half. I'm not too worried about a keeper who has conceded 10 goals in 17 games but of course that's all down to the defence and we probably wouldn't have conceded all season if it wasn't for Stockdale.
JJ McClure
Go Jags
Stockdale 6 - one good save, dodgy on a couple of the corners
Bruno 6
Bong 5 Poor defending and slowed things down too much coming forward
Duffy 6
Dunk 8 solid as ever
Knockaert 6 some silky control in the middle of the park, but pretty much owned by the Villa left back when on the wing.
Stephens 4 Too many misplaced passes and too often caught in possession
Sidwell 6
Skalak 7 got up and down the line well
Baldock 5 lots of running, not a lot of product
Murray 7 great goal
Bruno 6
Bong 5 Poor defending and slowed things down too much coming forward
Duffy 6
Dunk 8 solid as ever
Knockaert 6 some silky control in the middle of the park, but pretty much owned by the Villa left back when on the wing.
Stephens 4 Too many misplaced passes and too often caught in possession
Sidwell 6
Skalak 7 got up and down the line well
Baldock 5 lots of running, not a lot of product
Murray 7 great goal
Off the top of my head mistakes at
Reading away
Preston home
Newcastle away
He didn't cover himself in glory at home to Brentford. He continually flaps/punches at crosses, inviting further pressure.
We are fortunate to have a strong defence to protect him. His form this season has been poor.
Finchley Seagull
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I'm bored of going through this. Every time we concede a goal it is blame Stockdale. The Newcastle and last night are both very harsh, Reading he was at fault but it took a deflection in front of him and Preston was a ridiculous back pass from Bruno. It is almost like people are waiting for us to concede to slag off Stockdale. As a key part of the best defence in the league, I am happy with him. But, as you and some others on here say, he clearly deserves no credit for that and all the blame if we concede.
I notice you ignore my point about our goal. It was a good cross and there were no defenders nearby. It could have been 2-0 but, partly thanks to Stockdale's interception and throw, it was 1-1.
portslade seagull
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You missed Baldock out