Yes they are, but thank you......
By the way, I agree regarding Ward. he played really well and the only time he was exposed was because others weren't doing their job defensively.
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Yes they are, but thank you......
By the way, I agree regarding Ward. he played really well and the only time he was exposed was because others weren't doing their job defensively.
Finchley Seagull
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Tactical change does not mean he regarded him as the weak link. Also, he was one of the options apparently, rather than the only one.
Whatever you think of the rest of his performance (and most people disagree with you), you must admit that he won the game for us yesterday. How many of our players could have scored that? He is on the pitch to make that difference with a bit of quality. Birmingham looked pretty solid at that point.
That's fair enough, and as per my ratings Lopez got one mark higher because of the goal. That's not to say he is worth a place or that somebody else wouldn't have finished as well...... But Lopez did it when it mattered.
Finchley Seagull
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Yes they are, but thank you......
By the way, I agree regarding Ward. he played really well and the only time he was exposed was because others weren't doing their job defensively.
I thought Ward had one of best games for us. Seems to be growing in confidence each game.
It would be really dull on here if we all agreed on ratings. Wouldn't be much of a thread.
If your winger is not creating anything, the centre of midfield according to everyone (Crofts, Ince etc), is doing well its pretty obvious who was about to be replaced. Surely you can see that. I certainly would not have withdrawn KLL, Crofts, Ince or at the time Ulloa for March. Would you?
If he is not producing what he is there to do he is the weak link, consistently poor delivery, though as you say the goal was excellent.
severnside gull
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I think Martin O'Neil will have left with three names on his next teamsheet in Andrews, Ward and Randolph (their MOM by far).
More lovely stuff from Bruno and David in tandem.
Ince needs to act on instinct in the area on the occassions he gets up there - thinking possibly cost him two goals
We will miss Crofts - with Ulloa all at sea (looked like he had been watching too many Zigic videoa) he was our main threat.
Greer and Upson in commanding (sometimes manhandling) form and one exquisite ball through from Greer inside their half to Crofts (I think) running through into their box was real quality.
I have never seen KLL work do hard and clearly enjoying playing. Such power in his shooting - should have been involved in the couple if set pieces we won around their box (we missed Barnes ability to fall over)
Slow start - no tempo - and why oh why do we decide to defend deep at the death leaving the opposition thinking they should have left with a point after being outplayed for the middle 60 minutes.
More lovely stuff from Bruno and David in tandem.
Ince needs to act on instinct in the area on the occassions he gets up there - thinking possibly cost him two goals
We will miss Crofts - with Ulloa all at sea (looked like he had been watching too many Zigic videoa) he was our main threat.
Greer and Upson in commanding (sometimes manhandling) form and one exquisite ball through from Greer inside their half to Crofts (I think) running through into their box was real quality.
I have never seen KLL work do hard and clearly enjoying playing. Such power in his shooting - should have been involved in the couple if set pieces we won around their box (we missed Barnes ability to fall over)
Slow start - no tempo - and why oh why do we decide to defend deep at the death leaving the opposition thinking they should have left with a point after being outplayed for the middle 60 minutes.
Absolutely, the discussion is the best bit. Acker does a great job with the stats.....
I like Ward, not as good as Bridge, but on the pitch more regularly.
Finchley Seagull
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I think when Orlandi, Buckley etc are back, we won't see Lopez on the wing anyway. His best position is front of the midfield three and it maybe he's used there at home and more as a sub away when we're more defensive.
Oscar said it was one of two, not me. Not sure which one but they may have taken one of the central three off to go for it a bit more.
I think its fair to say Oscar was being diplomatic. As you can tell I hope we don't see Lopez that much when others are fit.
Finchley Seagull
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I think its fair to say Oscar was being diplomatic. As you can tell I hope we don't see Lopez that much when others are fit.
Surely we all hope that he has a great second half of the season, like last year, and is deservedly in the team. I agree generally that he's been average/poor this season with a few exceptions. I thought yesterday was one of the exceptions (Leicester being the most obvious) but that goal is something he can produce, which most Championship players can't.
I hope all of our players play well enough to justify their place, if they are all on form there can be no place for Lopez IMO.
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That's a great website.
It says Lopez hit 3 accurate crosses out of 14.
That sounds poor, but then contrast him to others.
Willian (Chelsea) - 2 out of 12
Brunt (WBA) - 0 out of 10
Clyne (Soton) - 2 out of 8
Mirallas (Eve) - 4 out of 11
Baines (Eve) - 3 out of 11
Finchley Seagull
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I think if everyone is at top form, Lopez is our most creative player and would be in the team. He was brilliant second half of last season and on his good days this season, especially Leicester home, he has shown he still has the ability. Needs to be consistently like that performance now rather than one in five games.
What would your team be?
Finchley Seagull
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Depends on the opposition. With everyone fit, the back five is the same as yesterday. Probably Ince and Crofts in midfield (assuming Bridcutt is out) but the front four are interesting.
At home, I'd be tempted to play Lopez at the front of the midfield three with Orlandi and Buckley/LuaLua wide and Ulloa up front. Away, I'd probably be more defensive with Andrews/Agustien in the third midfield position and one of Orlandi/Lopez and one of Buckley/LuaLua wide with Ulloa up front. Will be interesting to see Oscar's decisions if we're ever close to getting everyone fit. CMS obviously is another option if/when he comes back. How about you?
Not far off - Bruno was poor in the first half - in terms of passing to them rather than us - but better in second half, so his score is a bit higher than I would give
Same back 5 as yesterday. Similar to you really. Though KLL, Buckley and Orlandi at home with Ulloa down the middle. Away, would switch Orlandi out wide with either Buckley or KLL missing out and play Andrews.
Subs - Brez, Calderon, AEA, Agustein, Lopez, March and Forward (?Obika)
Finchley Seagull
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Very similar then. I can see the logic of both Buckley and KLL playing at home too. If the opposition have a slow back four, I would be tempted to give with that too. Shows the depth we have if everyone is fit, especially if CMS can get fit.
I agree with your subs at the moment. I'm hopeful we'll have Conway back, a new striker to replace Barnes and either a central midfielder (if Bridcutt goes) or Bridcutt by the end of the window. The latter is vital if Crofts is out for the season.
Yes I also agree with these ratings from JBizzle.
Would add that it would be better if the ratings included the area we sit at the Amex as this does seem to sway them a little.
I'm WSU top and centre line.
Machiavelli
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Thanks for passing on this link. Will become part of my post-match ritual too.