- Jan 3, 2012
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Stephens was the one with a no. 6 on his back.........
........ I thought he and Propper ran the midfield.
[Albion] Player ratings vs Arsenal (h)
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Stephens was the one with a no. 6 on his back.........
........ I thought he and Propper ran the midfield.
As I said, you have a rep for getting angry, aggressive and personal at the very first instance when folk have a different opinion to you. As I demonstrated earlier, I’m more than happy to engage and reconsider. But I have better things to do with my time than argue the toss over a midfielder with the likes of you.
Have a nice evening.
Any chance you could rate based on the actual game rather than your fixed views ? Literally nothing you’ve posted above in relation to DS refers to the Arsenal game.
Bernado was ace apart from one mistake that could have been but wasn`t disastrous. So 7 mean i`d go for 8 or 9. Stevens played as well as I`ve seen him play. Very commanding, 5 gotta be joking I`d give him 8. March 3 again gotta be joking, 3 means shit. I`ll give him a five or six. Gross again you`ve been harsh 7 from me.
This was my annual pilgrimage game so I will give my ratings, even if a bit late.
Ryan. 8 Amazing 2 saves to keep us in it when we were clearly out of our depth
Montoya 7 Good as the game went on, his challenge was harsh though as the studs were showing. Overall a good contribution.
Duffy. 7 It would be an 8 for the last 60 min, loved his domination once Arsenal were forced to go long. it in the first 20 min he looked pretty troubled.
Balagon. 6 His dallying was right in front of me and painful to watch. Took what looked totally innocent to being a goal. Is a great footballer, but we cannot have the mistakes. He will clearly learn and improve though.
Bernardo. 7 I love his athleltic ability, did not see his mistakes that have been mentioned, but saw his effort to always get back into position.
Locadia. 8 MOTM for his forward movement, was such an outlet and threat I think he was mostly responsible for Arsenal's meltdown in the 2nd half, as they could not over commit or he kept popping up behind them. He could have done better with his 2nd chance but hey ho.
Stevens. 7 Many have rated him higher but my impression during the game was that he gave some good passes and made tackles, but also made some bad mistakes and slowed our progress unnecessarily. A great player, but not his best night.
Propper 7 I saw his mis hit shot when who well placed and cannot give him an 8 because of it. Otherwise did very well.
March. 7 Loved his work and effort. His chance was not so easy but was really painful as I thought it would be in. Still his work rate and link up play was very good.
Gross. 7 Actually thought he did very well in tight spaces, his ball control is the best on the team. Could have done more in open spaces though and was off the pace.
Murray. 6 I was disappointed in him, as he had a great cut back from March and clearly mis-hit in the first half, this is what we do not expect from him.
Subs- All very late, can understand as we were playing well, but it felt frustrating give who was on tap.
Ryan. 8 Amazing 2 saves to keep us in it when we were clearly out of our depth
Montoya 7 Good as the game went on, his challenge was harsh though as the studs were showing. Overall a good contribution.
Duffy. 7 It would be an 8 for the last 60 min, loved his domination once Arsenal were forced to go long. it in the first 20 min he looked pretty troubled.
Balagon. 6 His dallying was right in front of me and painful to watch. Took what looked totally innocent to being a goal. Is a great footballer, but we cannot have the mistakes. He will clearly learn and improve though.
Bernardo. 7 I love his athleltic ability, did not see his mistakes that have been mentioned, but saw his effort to always get back into position.
Locadia. 8 MOTM for his forward movement, was such an outlet and threat I think he was mostly responsible for Arsenal's meltdown in the 2nd half, as they could not over commit or he kept popping up behind them. He could have done better with his 2nd chance but hey ho.
Stevens. 7 Many have rated him higher but my impression during the game was that he gave some good passes and made tackles, but also made some bad mistakes and slowed our progress unnecessarily. A great player, but not his best night.
Propper 7 I saw his mis hit shot when who well placed and cannot give him an 8 because of it. Otherwise did very well.
March. 7 Loved his work and effort. His chance was not so easy but was really painful as I thought it would be in. Still his work rate and link up play was very good.
Gross. 7 Actually thought he did very well in tight spaces, his ball control is the best on the team. Could have done more in open spaces though and was off the pace.
Murray. 6 I was disappointed in him, as he had a great cut back from March and clearly mis-hit in the first half, this is what we do not expect from him.
Subs- All very late, can understand as we were playing well, but it felt frustrating give who was on tap.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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Watching on TV I thought March played pretty well although he faded in the last 20 minutes and really should have done better with his chance. Him and Locadia looked dangerous throughout the game to me. Maybe that's the difference from being at the game and watching on t.v at 3.am...
This is also how I, and a few others, saw Stephens’ performance. Good luck as you will be challenged over this.
Kalimantan Gull
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He gave a seven, you gave a four. Have you watched the highlights yet?
Lincolnshire Seagull
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Agreed - plus Ryan of course. Also thought Gross showed signs of getting back in form.
Not yet. I’ll get round to it, I promise. Out of interest, how did you find the rest of my ratings?
Wardy's twin
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i think Bernardo's contribution was more telling than people give him credit for as a positive outlet pushing forward he helped take the game to arsenal.
I agree with this. I also think he will be the first Prem player we will see bids from other clubs coming in. His progression has been quite startling and he’s still young and learning.
Absolutely..... Also relieved the pressure several times by carrying out of defence
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BensGrandad
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Ryan 8 Did his job to keep us in the game
Montoya 7 Showed that the end for Bruno could be near
Duffy 7 Good to see him back be better when it is with Dunk
Balogun 6 Good no 3 choice CB but has the one mistake in him as Dunk did a couple of years ago so perhaps he will improve similarly.,
Bernardo 7 Had a torrid start but improved as the game wore on now established as first choice left back.
March 6 very frustrating promises a lot produces littl;e time for a change perhaps
Stephens 7 We are so much better as a team with our engine
Propper 9 Just getting better but needs a goal MOM
Locadia 8 Looked to be a useful buy and shut up the critics hopefully
Gross 7 Getting back to his best
Murray 6 Did his job but not at his best should have come off earlier.
Subs
Andone 6 should have been on to inject more pace when GM got his yellow card.
Knockaert 6 Must be given a chance instead of March soon.
Montoya 7 Showed that the end for Bruno could be near
Duffy 7 Good to see him back be better when it is with Dunk
Balogun 6 Good no 3 choice CB but has the one mistake in him as Dunk did a couple of years ago so perhaps he will improve similarly.,
Bernardo 7 Had a torrid start but improved as the game wore on now established as first choice left back.
March 6 very frustrating promises a lot produces littl;e time for a change perhaps
Stephens 7 We are so much better as a team with our engine
Propper 9 Just getting better but needs a goal MOM
Locadia 8 Looked to be a useful buy and shut up the critics hopefully
Gross 7 Getting back to his best
Murray 6 Did his job but not at his best should have come off earlier.
Subs
Andone 6 should have been on to inject more pace when GM got his yellow card.
Knockaert 6 Must be given a chance instead of March soon.
Ryan - 10. Literally, he could have done no more. Two outstanding saves, dealt well with crosses, kicking excellent. Flawless.
Bernardo - 8. Excellent. Great athleticism, and no little skill. One terrible error on the edge of our box - got lucky.
Montoya - 7. Decent on the whole. Lunge was reckless - yellow was correct, but could have cost us the game.
Balogun - 6. Generally good, but two errors led to the goal conceded - the second of them really poor.
Duffy - 8. Shaky start, then utterly dominant. Lacazette shat himself every time the ball went up in the air.
Stephens - 8.5. Outstanding. Never have so many fans' assessments of a player been so bizarre. Did all his normal Stephens' stuff well, AND contributed numerous quality defence-splitting passes. What more can a DM do?
Pröpper - 8.5. Class act.
Groß - 7.5. Looking close to himself again. Fitness a bit lacking, understandably.
March - 6. Not his best day, but as ever totally reliable defensively. Big chance to win it went begging.
Locadia - 8. Comfortably his best showing. To get onto that loose ball for the goal, having started his run in our box, showed a previously unseen level of commitment and desire. Fair play.
Murray - 6. Slightly below par for Glenn. All-round play fine, but missed two chances first half that he'd expect to do better with.
Bernardo - 8. Excellent. Great athleticism, and no little skill. One terrible error on the edge of our box - got lucky.
Montoya - 7. Decent on the whole. Lunge was reckless - yellow was correct, but could have cost us the game.
Balogun - 6. Generally good, but two errors led to the goal conceded - the second of them really poor.
Duffy - 8. Shaky start, then utterly dominant. Lacazette shat himself every time the ball went up in the air.
Stephens - 8.5. Outstanding. Never have so many fans' assessments of a player been so bizarre. Did all his normal Stephens' stuff well, AND contributed numerous quality defence-splitting passes. What more can a DM do?
Pröpper - 8.5. Class act.
Groß - 7.5. Looking close to himself again. Fitness a bit lacking, understandably.
March - 6. Not his best day, but as ever totally reliable defensively. Big chance to win it went begging.
Locadia - 8. Comfortably his best showing. To get onto that loose ball for the goal, having started his run in our box, showed a previously unseen level of commitment and desire. Fair play.
Murray - 6. Slightly below par for Glenn. All-round play fine, but missed two chances first half that he'd expect to do better with.
Machiavelli
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I agree with this. He's a stunning player and, while recognising he's only started 8 or 10 PL games, I'm not so sure I've identified a weakness in his game yet (others might point to the two passages of over-elaborate play near our area against Arsenal, but I'll forgive him that for being generally bold).
He will get out of trouble with flair far more times than he'll get in it.
One to watch closely for a few years for beyond that I fear he will be playing for a top side.
Kalimantan Gull
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I'm not here to judge, honest! Just your Stephens 4 was shocking! I'd give montoya and Bernardo the same, thought inigo was very good.
Propper you gave 9, and I might be inclined to do the same. I gave him a set of 4 & 5's for his Burnley, Chelsea and Bournemouth performances, and am not really a fan, but will fully admit he was great on Wednesday, and I'm imploring you to find the same Christmas spirit for our Dale ��