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Player ratings v Ipswich?
- Thread starter seagullwedgee
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I know, what am I thinking?
Kuszczak 7
Calderon 7
Greer 7
El-Abd 7
Bridge 7
Bridcutt 7
Hammond 7
Orlandi 7
Lua Lua 7
Dobbie 7
Barnes 7
Subs:
Buckley 7
Dicker 7
Lopez 7
Poyet 7
7 scores will only make the play-offs. The only good bit of possible excitement came from Dobbie. I would give all the Ipswich players 7 as well. Jewell might get an 8.
PS: I gave both sets of supporters a 5 but it was more like watching chess than football.
Calderon 7
Greer 7
El-Abd 7
Bridge 7
Bridcutt 7
Hammond 7
Orlandi 7
Lua Lua 7
Dobbie 7
Barnes 7
Subs:
Buckley 7
Dicker 7
Lopez 7
Poyet 7
7 scores will only make the play-offs. The only good bit of possible excitement came from Dobbie. I would give all the Ipswich players 7 as well. Jewell might get an 8.
PS: I gave both sets of supporters a 5 but it was more like watching chess than football.
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Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
You shouldn't find it bizarre, you always support the underdog in favour of any player that has some genuine flair and quality.
Dicker was an objectively better player than Buckley last night. Buckley wasn't bad, Dicker was just very, very good.
And that's bollocks. My favourite players are Bergkamp, Berbatov, Murray. Classy, "lazy" players.
I don't care who your favourite players are in world football. From your posts, our players that are your favourites are Barnes, Dicker, CMS. Players that in the past have received a lot of stick. Not having a go, I think its admirable you supporting the underdog but think it effects your opinion. For example, you don't rate Buckley, probably because he is widely liked and doesn't need your support.
This is going to make me sound arrogant, but I think it's more that some people take a very simplistic view "Buckley and CMS scored, so they must be good, cos they're exciting etc" meanwhile the likes of Dicker and Barnes do three or four equally important jobs for the team that go unnoticed because the people who don't rate them don't understand their role in the team, ie:
Dickers shit, he never chases 50 yards to win a tackle.
Barnes is shit, he doesn't score enough amazing goals.
I judge a player based on what he is in the team to do.
Dicker and Barnes more than do their jobs most weeks, and I happen to agree with Gus that those who don't rate Barnes dont truly understand football, and they certainly don't understand what Gus is doing with this club.
And I do rate Buckley. My favourite player is Bruno, then Bridcutt.
I stick up for Barnes and Dicker cos they get a lot of uninformed bollocks posted about them.
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Scunner
Active member
Kuszczak 7.5 - re-assuring to have such an able presence in goal after last season's uncertainty
Calderon 6 - gets an extra mark for the cross, but he's suffering by comparison to Bruno and this was not a better peformance than average.
Greer 6 - I wonder if people actually watch the game and understand the tactics that influence the play. Greer always had Chopra or Scotland pressing him because they wanted El Abd to bring out the ball. This restricted what Greer was able to do, which I agree was not much.
El Abd 4 - Jewell tatically exposed him, he's a great defender, but panics with the ball at his feet and they just let him have it, knowing it would probably assist their cause eventually. To sort this out Bridcutt had to drop even deeper thus ensuring that he was always pressed as well. Good management by Jewell as through snuffing Bridcutt and Greer our plan A comes a bit unstuck.
Bridge 7 - quality, simple as that. Not as good as Saturday, but still a class apart.
Hammond 4 - bit of a shocker really, didn't really cope with the tactical requirements of the chess match on the pitch.
Bridcutt 6 - Consistently good, he gets measured by his own standards each game, which was below par even if he was still excellent at times.
Orlandi - 7 - Very good 1st Half, and his dead ball delivery is much better than Dicker's, so selection will be interesting going forward.
Barnes - 4 - Another shocker, really didn't do anything effective and wondered why he was not subbed.
Lua Lua - 3 - Oh dear...
Dobbie - 6 - Curate's egg of a performance, because he is clearly a very good player with excellent touch, yet too many attacks broke down because he was not quite in synch with the other two of the three up front.
Subs:
Dicker 6 - played well when he came on, but he's too slow for this level in pace, controlling the ball and distributing it. Good passer though.
Buckley 7 - gets an extra point for the goal, but was also frustrating on occasion.
Lopez - 6 seemed to do ok, but needs to impose himself more for the fans to notice him.
Calderon 6 - gets an extra mark for the cross, but he's suffering by comparison to Bruno and this was not a better peformance than average.
Greer 6 - I wonder if people actually watch the game and understand the tactics that influence the play. Greer always had Chopra or Scotland pressing him because they wanted El Abd to bring out the ball. This restricted what Greer was able to do, which I agree was not much.
El Abd 4 - Jewell tatically exposed him, he's a great defender, but panics with the ball at his feet and they just let him have it, knowing it would probably assist their cause eventually. To sort this out Bridcutt had to drop even deeper thus ensuring that he was always pressed as well. Good management by Jewell as through snuffing Bridcutt and Greer our plan A comes a bit unstuck.
Bridge 7 - quality, simple as that. Not as good as Saturday, but still a class apart.
Hammond 4 - bit of a shocker really, didn't really cope with the tactical requirements of the chess match on the pitch.
Bridcutt 6 - Consistently good, he gets measured by his own standards each game, which was below par even if he was still excellent at times.
Orlandi - 7 - Very good 1st Half, and his dead ball delivery is much better than Dicker's, so selection will be interesting going forward.
Barnes - 4 - Another shocker, really didn't do anything effective and wondered why he was not subbed.
Lua Lua - 3 - Oh dear...
Dobbie - 6 - Curate's egg of a performance, because he is clearly a very good player with excellent touch, yet too many attacks broke down because he was not quite in synch with the other two of the three up front.
Subs:
Dicker 6 - played well when he came on, but he's too slow for this level in pace, controlling the ball and distributing it. Good passer though.
Buckley 7 - gets an extra point for the goal, but was also frustrating on occasion.
Lopez - 6 seemed to do ok, but needs to impose himself more for the fans to notice him.
Wow that is arrogant.
You understand what Gus is doing.
Others views are simplistic.
Uninformed bollocks.
Might I ask you at what level of football you have played and managed to have this superior view?
No doubt you couldn't get into your school team either.
People seem relectant now to comment on Barnes, but I really cannot see what he brings to this team. I obviously dont understand football very well, will be the answer some will give on here, and that may well be the case in respect of Barnes. I dont get it.
Chesney Christ
New member
Are you on CRACK?
Is this the first post of his you've ever read?
Trolly Dolly
Member
- Aug 22, 2011
- 80
Kuszczak 7 solid class above our other options
Calderon 7 works his socks off but lacks flair of Bruno
Greer 7
El-Abd 6
Bridge 8 class
Bridcutt 7
Hammond 4 slow and out classed
Orlandi 7
Lua Lua 6 not enough variety
Dobbie 4 slow and out classed just like Hammond
Barnes 6 not his best performance
Subs:
Buckley 8
Dicker 8
Lopez 7
can't see Croft, CMS or the invisible Spanish God having trouble getting back into team when fit
Calderon 7 works his socks off but lacks flair of Bruno
Greer 7
El-Abd 6
Bridge 8 class
Bridcutt 7
Hammond 4 slow and out classed
Orlandi 7
Lua Lua 6 not enough variety
Dobbie 4 slow and out classed just like Hammond
Barnes 6 not his best performance
Subs:
Buckley 8
Dicker 8
Lopez 7
can't see Croft, CMS or the invisible Spanish God having trouble getting back into team when fit
Pondicherry
Well-known member
Scores - with 6 being average.
Gus - 5 - Wrong starting line up and wrong subs. Unless they were injured Dicker and Buckley should both have started. No forward on subs bench was idiotic as well
Pole - 7 - Solid
Calderon - 6 - Average. Looks slow these days but did create goal. Main problem is that he is not Bruno.
Greer - 5 - Distribution slow and poor.
El Abd - 4 - Distribution slow and poor. As others have said, could have been sent off.
Bridge - 7 - Class. Hampered by Lua Lua.
Lua Lua - 3 - Not match fit. Has lost pace in first yard. No confidence. Feigns injury after making mistakes.
Hammond - 3 - Slow. Limit of passing range appears to be 3 feet. Does not get forward. Poor mans Bridcutt.
Bridcutt - 4 - Very poor for him. Tackled well but passing woefull.
Orlandi - 7- Clear to see he is a class player. Let down by those around him.
Barnes - 3 - No pace. No control. We knew this though. For his size (6 foot) wins little in the air. He has got a shot on him though - he didnt use it last night though.
Dobbie - 4 - At least I can see there is a footballer there. Lets hope it doesn't take Gus a whole season to work out how to use him (as per CMS)
Dicker - 7 - I am not a big fan but he has been good for the last two games.
Buckley - 7 - Our main goalscorer is injured so we leave our goalscoring midfielder on the bench - and then he scores. See Gus score above.
Fans - 7 - Noisierthan average.
Gus - 5 - Wrong starting line up and wrong subs. Unless they were injured Dicker and Buckley should both have started. No forward on subs bench was idiotic as well
Pole - 7 - Solid
Calderon - 6 - Average. Looks slow these days but did create goal. Main problem is that he is not Bruno.
Greer - 5 - Distribution slow and poor.
El Abd - 4 - Distribution slow and poor. As others have said, could have been sent off.
Bridge - 7 - Class. Hampered by Lua Lua.
Lua Lua - 3 - Not match fit. Has lost pace in first yard. No confidence. Feigns injury after making mistakes.
Hammond - 3 - Slow. Limit of passing range appears to be 3 feet. Does not get forward. Poor mans Bridcutt.
Bridcutt - 4 - Very poor for him. Tackled well but passing woefull.
Orlandi - 7- Clear to see he is a class player. Let down by those around him.
Barnes - 3 - No pace. No control. We knew this though. For his size (6 foot) wins little in the air. He has got a shot on him though - he didnt use it last night though.
Dobbie - 4 - At least I can see there is a footballer there. Lets hope it doesn't take Gus a whole season to work out how to use him (as per CMS)
Dicker - 7 - I am not a big fan but he has been good for the last two games.
Buckley - 7 - Our main goalscorer is injured so we leave our goalscoring midfielder on the bench - and then he scores. See Gus score above.
Fans - 7 - Noisierthan average.
Pondicherry
Well-known member
I think Dicker is OK as a player but perhaps you could explain the role and un-noticed work that Barnes does.
My view on Barnes is as follows:
Good at: Shooting, work rate, moaning at referees
Poor at: Control, beating a man, distribution, awareness, heading (for his size)
Dobbie is being played in the wrong position
Dobbie is aclass player and needs time to settle-he is being played in the wrong position...he plays behind the striker and links the midfield with attacks well
Dobbie is aclass player and needs time to settle-he is being played in the wrong position...he plays behind the striker and links the midfield with attacks well
Titus
Come on!
That's where he was yesterday.