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Thats 1 each For the players and -6 for the management
Thats 1 each For the players and -6 for the management
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[Football] Player ratings H v Man City
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Ethelwulf
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Player ratings H v Man City
Was Man City but just wish we had turned up
Ryan 2 a good keeper but had a shocker tonight
Montoya 2 dog shit
Bernardo 5 looks good going forward not so good defending
Webster 5 thought he was not to bad
Dunk 6.5 my Albion mom
Propper - 0 total and utter shit tonight
Bissouma - 6 least he tried
Mooy - 5 looks unfit and slow but nice touches
Gross - 4 too slow
Trossard 6 felt so sorry for him class but no service
Connolly 5 tried so hard impossible for him tonight
Lamptey - 6 - Should of started
Burn - not on long enough
Stephens - 6 to be fair looked ok
Maupay - 4 poor when he came on
Ali J - not on long enough
Was Man City but just wish we had turned up
Ryan 2 a good keeper but had a shocker tonight
Montoya 2 dog shit
Bernardo 5 looks good going forward not so good defending
Webster 5 thought he was not to bad
Dunk 6.5 my Albion mom
Propper - 0 total and utter shit tonight
Bissouma - 6 least he tried
Mooy - 5 looks unfit and slow but nice touches
Gross - 4 too slow
Trossard 6 felt so sorry for him class but no service
Connolly 5 tried so hard impossible for him tonight
Lamptey - 6 - Should of started
Burn - not on long enough
Stephens - 6 to be fair looked ok
Maupay - 4 poor when he came on
Ali J - not on long enough
Rough game. The players worked hard (I know you dont believe it but thats what they did) and unfortunately City's very high class in combination with some players getting entirely undressed made the numbers quite big and especially in the own penalty area I would have expected a tad bit more despite the opposition.
Matt Ryan - 2
Lets just say it wasnt his day. People asking for him to be dropped against Saints need to take a deep breath and count to ten though.
Martin Montoya - 6
I'm very far from a Montoya fan but he was probably the defender least involved in the not so convincing defensive performance today. Did what you could expect from a very average or pretty poor defender facing City. If he was quality and put down the same performance it would have been a steady 3 or 4, but with Martins standards it was ok.
Adam Webster - 4
While its really no surprise Webster got some issues with very technical and pacy attackers twisting and turning, you could expect far more presence in the air than he showed today. Not much in his generally successful passing either. A game to forget.
Lewis Dunk - 6
retty close to a 5 but gets the benefit of a doubt since he was more or less alone on the left side playing against De Bruyne, Mahrez, Walker... and Bernardo.
Bernardo - 2
I think the unwarranted yelling about replacing the extremely consistent and competent Dan Burn with this fella will be pretty muted for a couple of days. I had to check how many times he lost possession: 16, fairly sure its some type of record for a Brighton player this season. It might have been the worst individual performance of any player in any game this season (Sheffield Wednesday in the cup never happened).
Aaron Mooy - 6
Worked his ass off as usual and got pretty tired and faded towards the end as usual, but was one of the few able to actually keep the ball within the team.
Davy Pröpper - 4
When he gets a bit of time he can play opening through balls and turns like few others in the team, but he is just slow in the thought and too often on his heels and the only type of consistency he got is that he consistently lose the ball in dangerous areas. Despite all of this, he improved as the game went on and was decent in his last 30 min on the pitch.
Yves Bissouma - 6
You see the class, even today, but he is still a year away from being able to do a top performance against one of the dirtiest midfields in history.
Pascal Gross - 7
Worked hard and was involved in the little that was created. I had never heard of him when I started watching the team, but he is "secretly" a class player - too bad he lacks pace.
Leandro Trossard - 6
Considering how little he had to work with, he did very much out of it. However, I've seen him put down some very good defensive performances recently but in that aspect he was just lost today - their ugly right side was too clever and too skilled to even let him come near and close down.
Aaron Connolly - 5
Perhaps N/A would be more fair. Ran like a rabid dog as usual, giving Tross a bit of space, but... didnt do much and there was really nothing he could do either. 90 minutes against opposition like this is good experience for him though.
Subs:
Tariq Lamptey - 6
Came in and had a better grasp of the right side (as expected), but also lost the ball dangerously a few times which could have been pretty bad if the game was in a stage were City werent as complacent.
Dale Stephens - 7
Came on and had as many interceptions (5) as Bissouma (2) and Pröpper (3) together. He might be old and boring, but he is Dale Stephens.
Ali Jahanbakhsh - N/A
Pretty meh. Had some good intents but also lost the ball a couple of times. Not really fair to give him a rating though.
Neal Maupay - 6 (or N/A)
Did a poor pass at a good counter attack opportunity but other than that you could see the ball control, the bite and the inherent class.
Matt Ryan - 2
Lets just say it wasnt his day. People asking for him to be dropped against Saints need to take a deep breath and count to ten though.
Martin Montoya - 6
I'm very far from a Montoya fan but he was probably the defender least involved in the not so convincing defensive performance today. Did what you could expect from a very average or pretty poor defender facing City. If he was quality and put down the same performance it would have been a steady 3 or 4, but with Martins standards it was ok.
Adam Webster - 4
While its really no surprise Webster got some issues with very technical and pacy attackers twisting and turning, you could expect far more presence in the air than he showed today. Not much in his generally successful passing either. A game to forget.
Lewis Dunk - 6
retty close to a 5 but gets the benefit of a doubt since he was more or less alone on the left side playing against De Bruyne, Mahrez, Walker... and Bernardo.
Bernardo - 2
I think the unwarranted yelling about replacing the extremely consistent and competent Dan Burn with this fella will be pretty muted for a couple of days. I had to check how many times he lost possession: 16, fairly sure its some type of record for a Brighton player this season. It might have been the worst individual performance of any player in any game this season (Sheffield Wednesday in the cup never happened).
Aaron Mooy - 6
Worked his ass off as usual and got pretty tired and faded towards the end as usual, but was one of the few able to actually keep the ball within the team.
Davy Pröpper - 4
When he gets a bit of time he can play opening through balls and turns like few others in the team, but he is just slow in the thought and too often on his heels and the only type of consistency he got is that he consistently lose the ball in dangerous areas. Despite all of this, he improved as the game went on and was decent in his last 30 min on the pitch.
Yves Bissouma - 6
You see the class, even today, but he is still a year away from being able to do a top performance against one of the dirtiest midfields in history.
Pascal Gross - 7
Worked hard and was involved in the little that was created. I had never heard of him when I started watching the team, but he is "secretly" a class player - too bad he lacks pace.
Leandro Trossard - 6
Considering how little he had to work with, he did very much out of it. However, I've seen him put down some very good defensive performances recently but in that aspect he was just lost today - their ugly right side was too clever and too skilled to even let him come near and close down.
Aaron Connolly - 5
Perhaps N/A would be more fair. Ran like a rabid dog as usual, giving Tross a bit of space, but... didnt do much and there was really nothing he could do either. 90 minutes against opposition like this is good experience for him though.
Subs:
Tariq Lamptey - 6
Came in and had a better grasp of the right side (as expected), but also lost the ball dangerously a few times which could have been pretty bad if the game was in a stage were City werent as complacent.
Dale Stephens - 7
Came on and had as many interceptions (5) as Bissouma (2) and Pröpper (3) together. He might be old and boring, but he is Dale Stephens.
Ali Jahanbakhsh - N/A
Pretty meh. Had some good intents but also lost the ball a couple of times. Not really fair to give him a rating though.
Neal Maupay - 6 (or N/A)
Did a poor pass at a good counter attack opportunity but other than that you could see the ball control, the bite and the inherent class.
Weststander
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Right backs - assuming Lamptey’s our RB next season, should we get rid of both MM and Schelotto this summer? Both have been taken apart in the PL (MM not just by the mega spending clubs wide players).
I think we need to invest in cover for Lamptey.
Grombleton
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Ryan 3 - To blame for at least 2 of the goals and didn't look confident at other times. Probably the first spell of continuous poor form for us.
Montoya 2 - How did this man once play for Barcelona
Bernardo 3 - Atrocious positioning all game. Slight leeway given as its his first start in a while.
Dunk 6 - Did ok. That's all I can muster for him.
Webster 5 - not actially his worst game for us.
Propper 4 - Def one of his poorer performances; struggles when receiving the ball from the back 4 which is a fundamental part of our play.
Bissouma 6 - one of the few that gave a shit
Gross 5 - Wasn't terrible, but just wasn't great either.
Mooy 6 - Same as Gross, but showed more attacking intent.
Trossard 6 - Tried and came closest to a goal, but didnt have the players to link up with.
Connolly 5 - Ran and ran but fed on sod all...positioning was poor at times too and doesnt seem to want to press as much as Maupay does.
Stephens 6 - did well when he came on
Lamptey 6 - got forward and at least showed players down the line, which Montoya didn't.
Burn 5 - added little to an already v poor left side
Maupay 5 - Not much he could do, but poor decision making when he could have put Ali J through late on.
Ali J 6 - offered an outlet and made some good runs, but was never found.
We were always going to find it hard tonight as they were that good but some players disappointed. Fortunately we are in such a position it shouldnt be a problem, not like last years 5-0 v Bournemouth.
Next game is more important, that rough patch of games is done with now.
Montoya 2 - How did this man once play for Barcelona
Bernardo 3 - Atrocious positioning all game. Slight leeway given as its his first start in a while.
Dunk 6 - Did ok. That's all I can muster for him.
Webster 5 - not actially his worst game for us.
Propper 4 - Def one of his poorer performances; struggles when receiving the ball from the back 4 which is a fundamental part of our play.
Bissouma 6 - one of the few that gave a shit
Gross 5 - Wasn't terrible, but just wasn't great either.
Mooy 6 - Same as Gross, but showed more attacking intent.
Trossard 6 - Tried and came closest to a goal, but didnt have the players to link up with.
Connolly 5 - Ran and ran but fed on sod all...positioning was poor at times too and doesnt seem to want to press as much as Maupay does.
Stephens 6 - did well when he came on
Lamptey 6 - got forward and at least showed players down the line, which Montoya didn't.
Burn 5 - added little to an already v poor left side
Maupay 5 - Not much he could do, but poor decision making when he could have put Ali J through late on.
Ali J 6 - offered an outlet and made some good runs, but was never found.
We were always going to find it hard tonight as they were that good but some players disappointed. Fortunately we are in such a position it shouldnt be a problem, not like last years 5-0 v Bournemouth.
Next game is more important, that rough patch of games is done with now.
I rate you 8 for bothering to go into such detail.
The players never got going. I’m not going to rate Individually them, as we all know.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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I’d award the cardboard cut outs 10 for sitting out the whole match.
Don’t think any of them sloped off after 80 minutes which I think I might have done today.... prop(p)er horror show ?!
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Don’t think any of them sloped off after 80 minutes which I think I might have done today.... prop(p)er horror show ?!
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Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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And that being the reason why Stephens is going nowhere. We need players with bite and attitude as well as the flair players and I think GP appreciates what he brings. Unless we can replace him and his leadership and attitude with an upgrade he will be staying
Gully Forever
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- May 9, 2011
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if half of these players are in the squad next season, prepare for another dismal and dire season.
You had best prepare yourself then.
We'll be lucky to bring in 4 new signings and it'll probably be less than that.
Many successful teams have below average Players who tag along. Im sure he would have looked alright with Messi just up ahead!
saafend_seagull
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Ryan, Montoya, propper 0 - all should be embarassed and beer clearing out
Webster 1 - bambi on ice is back in these last 3 home games. Combined with others At fault for 3 goals. He has some of the worst positional play and balance I’ve ever seen. Gets a 1 as made a tackle to save a goal.
Dunk 4 - couple of blocks but positional play very shakey
Bernardo - 4 at fault for two goals but kept de Bruyne quiet
Mooy, gross, connolly - 4 tried hard but not quality
Bissouma - 5 only play who is mobile in the midfield light years above anyone else we have there
Trossard - 5, couple of good moments
Subs - Stephens 6, rest didn’t touch ball
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Webster 1 - bambi on ice is back in these last 3 home games. Combined with others At fault for 3 goals. He has some of the worst positional play and balance I’ve ever seen. Gets a 1 as made a tackle to save a goal.
Dunk 4 - couple of blocks but positional play very shakey
Bernardo - 4 at fault for two goals but kept de Bruyne quiet
Mooy, gross, connolly - 4 tried hard but not quality
Bissouma - 5 only play who is mobile in the midfield light years above anyone else we have there
Trossard - 5, couple of good moments
Subs - Stephens 6, rest didn’t touch ball
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portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Very good assessment summary Mr V. What would you score Potter incidentally?
portlock seagull
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Oops, right question to the wrong poster. What would you score Potter incidentally? Great summary btw.
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Potter - 4 - Turned up to the battle of Stalingrad wielding a stick of rhubarb. Reduced to managing the damage in the second half
I thought one of our players actually had a very good game. Weirdly it was a centre back when we conceded 5. I don’t think he could have done anything for the goals (even the final goal which was lifted over him was excellent skill from Raheem) and dunk spent the match covering Webster and Bernardo. He made lots of tackles and interceptions and was generally pretty good. Remember this was against wave after wave of attack so to keep his concentration was great. There was one moment in the second half when he slipped but this can happen. He made several blocks, including the one with the long barrier to put a shot against the bar quite early and as always close to the line trying to make a block of play had gone round him.
He was also pretty calm with the ball and a few times took someone closing him down out of the game with one touch around them. Granted his long passing was not perfect but he was trying to find one person up front who is the size of my 11 year old! Let’s not forget he also played a great ball to Ali J who didn’t time his run properly.
All in all I thought he did well. Montoya, Webster and Bernardo were poor and i have never seen propper have a worse game for us than that - propper in particular caused many of our worst moments. I think propper is quality so it hurt writing that.
We probably have enough points already but there is no reason we can’t get something from our last three. Find me a Brighton fan who would not have taken 7 points from arsenal, leics, United, Norwich, Liverpool and city when we restarted!
He was also pretty calm with the ball and a few times took someone closing him down out of the game with one touch around them. Granted his long passing was not perfect but he was trying to find one person up front who is the size of my 11 year old! Let’s not forget he also played a great ball to Ali J who didn’t time his run properly.
All in all I thought he did well. Montoya, Webster and Bernardo were poor and i have never seen propper have a worse game for us than that - propper in particular caused many of our worst moments. I think propper is quality so it hurt writing that.
We probably have enough points already but there is no reason we can’t get something from our last three. Find me a Brighton fan who would not have taken 7 points from arsenal, leics, United, Norwich, Liverpool and city when we restarted!