Player Ratings - Charlton

[Chesney Christ]

interesting how you can add 2 to every players performance if we win isnt it? Dicker was deserving of atleast an 8 last night.

Yeah, its like how everyone got 7 or more after the Saints game even though Whing and El-Abd were absolute pap that game. When we lose, no one is allowed more than 6/7 - its absolute nonsense.

 

[Gordon the Gopher]

Yeah, its like how everyone got 7 or more after the Saints game even though Whing and El-Abd were absolute pap that game. When we lose, no one is allowed more than 6/7 - its absolute nonsense.

You're earlier post and subsequent comments show you are far too knowledgeable about football to be on this board. People like you who talk common sense and who clearly know a bit about football should be banned!

 

[mr cgull]

Right. I'll explain. Gary Dicker is a holding midfielder.

Holding midfielders tend to fit into two categories:

One is the gutsy, battling, tough tackling pkayer such as Owen Hargreaves or Charlie Oatway.

The other type is a more creative type of player that sits deep and tries to create attacking plays from there. Andrea Pirlo and Xabi Alonso fit this description very well.

I will remove Dicker from this analogy to avoid argument. Pirlo and Alonso are outstanding footballers but they VERY rarely directly create goals. In his Liverpool days, if Alonso played a glorious fifty yard pass to Yossi Benayoun, who then runs five yards and passes an easy square ball for Torres to score, who has had the biggest influence on the goal? Alonso clearly, but Benayoun would be credited with the assist.

There is where you totally miss the point with Dicker. His link play between the defence and the midfield is exceptional and he does it with composure and class. If he spreads the ball out wide to Dean Cox who then fucks up the cross, this is not Dicker's fault - he has still done his bit brilliantly. A prime example of this was against R & D, where Dicker came on and sprayed the ball beautifully to either flank who proceeded to do f*** all with it.

From where Dicker is usually positioned, he would have to hit inch perfect 50 yard through balls to directly set up goals, so you bemoaning his lack of assists is stupid and ignorant.

If a move that started with an excellent pass of his led to a goal 4 or 5 passes further on, his pass is still the significant one in the goal. It is still the most important ball and the best ball because without it the move would not have even started to lead to the goal.

Dicker collects the ball, traps the ball and retains the ball a million times better than anyone on our books at the moment and for me is currently Player of The Season.

Your obsession with criticising one of the very few shining lights of the season is pathetic and getting rather embarrassing.

Can I give a further example to help?

Southampton first goal for us. Yes it was excellent play from Cox & Crofts that set up the goal for Murray, but...

...how did Cox get the ball in the first place?

Bennett dalied on the ball on the half way line wide left and was caught in possession, Dicker came in, broke up play and played a brilliant cross field first time pass to Cox on the other side of the pitch.

Simples.

 

[Box of Frogs]

All 10's, played with outstanding passion and the skill displayed in the 2nd half to keep it down to do was quite frankly fantastic

Not quite 10s but I thought the team as a whole played the best I have seen since the Southampton game. Against a mid table side we would have walked it with a performance like that.

Isn't it also interesting the comments Smith gets - 'they' say he was definately at fault for both goals and, oh yeah, I guess that point blank double save in the second half was ok. If that was Kuipers in goal 'they' (WW) would be creaming themselves about how fantastic their hero was and how poor the defence was to leave him exposed for both goals. And that save, wow!!

I have nothing against, nor do I favour, either keeper as it happens.

 

[Chesney Christ]

Can I give a further example to help?

Southampton first goal for us. Yes it was excellent play from Cox & Crofts that set up the goal for Murray, but...

...how did Cox get the ball in the first place?

Bennett dalied on the ball on the half way line wide left and was caught in possession, Dicker came in, broke up play and played a brilliant cross field first time pass to Cox on the other side of the pitch.

Simples.

Excellent point. That ball out to Cox was superb. It was typical Dicker.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Not quite 10s but I thought the team as a whole played the best I have seen since the Southampton game. Against a mid table side we would have walked it with a performance like that.

Isn't it also interesting the comments Smith gets - 'they' say he was definately at fault for both goals and, oh yeah, I guess that point blank double save in the second half was ok. If that was Kuipers in goal 'they' (WW) would be creaming themselves about how fantastic their hero was and how poor the defence was to leave him exposed for both goals. And that save, wow!!

I have nothing against, nor do I favour, either keeper as it happens.

Michek Kuipers is certainly no hero of mine, I think he's better than the Jock, but the sooner we get a new number 1 in the better.