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[Albion] Player Ratings - Burnley (h)
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Can we Jamie this absolute C*NT?
I think Baldock really makes a difference. It would be nice to see him on the bench, even if not for every game if his personal circumstances are difficult.
sussex_guy2k2
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I agree in that I think he looks more one dimensional on the left (he’s the only one of our wingers that’s ever played on his natural side... why is this?). However, I feel for the guy. He seems to have been the one to take most of the blame for the team’s performances this season as he seems to be the first one to get dropped or rotated whenever changes are made. For a young man who looked very decent for this level at the start of the season, I’d imagine his confidence has been shot from how Hughton has used him this season, and consequently it’s more than likely he’s lost a bit of his mojo and is trying too hard.
sussex_guy2k2
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Ryan 9 - our best player.
Bruno 7 - had an abundance of space in the first half and should have made more of it. Defended fairly well though.
Duffy 7 - a game made for his statistics type defending.
Dunk 7 - better overall than his partner but a big error playing Wood on for his second half chance.
Bong 7 - one of our better players. Solid down that side and got forward well, albeit with no end product.
Knockaert 7 - should’ve scored. Did some excellent things but also made some very questionable decisions. Defensive work needs work.
Stephens 7 - kept the game ticking over and got forward more than normal.
Propper 7 - considering he spent a fair portion of the time picking the ball up at LB, I thought he did well. Still feels like his natural instincts are being kept on a leash, which is a shame.
March 7 - I feel for the guy. Seems to be the one taking the blame as he’s always first to be dropped/rotated. That had a knock on effect today as he always seemed to be trying too hard to make something happen. Still, a good effort, always an outlet, just quesrionable decision making when in advanced areas (much like everyone else).
Gross 7 - excellent first half, faded badly in the second. We missed his spatial awareness when he went off though.
Murray 6 - I actually thought he has a decent game considering his current role in the side is such an awful one, but I’ve dropped him at least a point for the missed penalty which he should be embarrassed about.
Subs
Brown 6 - I thought he came on and drove at them well. Unfortunately, he made some bad decisions with his final ball on more than one occasion.
Hemed 4 - showed yet again why Murray will continue to start in our biggest games. We totally lost the plot when he came on as there was no focal point. Shouldn’t be used as a lone striker as he simply doesn’t have the characteristics for it.
Izzy 6 - again, I feel for the guy. Getting no sense of consistency in his game and seems to try too hard. Makes some excellent runs but is rarely picked out. Looks frustrated.
Bruno 7 - had an abundance of space in the first half and should have made more of it. Defended fairly well though.
Duffy 7 - a game made for his statistics type defending.
Dunk 7 - better overall than his partner but a big error playing Wood on for his second half chance.
Bong 7 - one of our better players. Solid down that side and got forward well, albeit with no end product.
Knockaert 7 - should’ve scored. Did some excellent things but also made some very questionable decisions. Defensive work needs work.
Stephens 7 - kept the game ticking over and got forward more than normal.
Propper 7 - considering he spent a fair portion of the time picking the ball up at LB, I thought he did well. Still feels like his natural instincts are being kept on a leash, which is a shame.
March 7 - I feel for the guy. Seems to be the one taking the blame as he’s always first to be dropped/rotated. That had a knock on effect today as he always seemed to be trying too hard to make something happen. Still, a good effort, always an outlet, just quesrionable decision making when in advanced areas (much like everyone else).
Gross 7 - excellent first half, faded badly in the second. We missed his spatial awareness when he went off though.
Murray 6 - I actually thought he has a decent game considering his current role in the side is such an awful one, but I’ve dropped him at least a point for the missed penalty which he should be embarrassed about.
Subs
Brown 6 - I thought he came on and drove at them well. Unfortunately, he made some bad decisions with his final ball on more than one occasion.
Hemed 4 - showed yet again why Murray will continue to start in our biggest games. We totally lost the plot when he came on as there was no focal point. Shouldn’t be used as a lone striker as he simply doesn’t have the characteristics for it.
Izzy 6 - again, I feel for the guy. Getting no sense of consistency in his game and seems to try too hard. Makes some excellent runs but is rarely picked out. Looks frustrated.
BensGrandad
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When was the last time any substitutions by CH has had the desired affect and improved us?
Frustrating. We should have won. First half was one of our best performances of the season.
Ryan 8. Good goalkeeper.
Bruno 6. Not at his best. Some poor passing.
Duffy 6. Some poor distribution.
Dunk 8. Good game in the main, but managed two raking cross-field balls straight into touch in the first three minutes.
Bong 7. Good game both defending and going forward except for that cross right at the end.
Stephens 7. Much better performance than of late. Houghton obviously explained to him the benefits of passing to his own side.
Propper 6. Needs to get more involved.
Knockaert 7. Some good, some not so good, and needs to cut out the petulance.
March 5. Was looking forward to him starting, but after a good first half he had a rotten second half. Should have been subbed.
Gross 7. Decent game. Lots of running.
Murray 7. Reasonable preformance apart from the penalty miss.
Subs:
Hemed 5. Better to have kept Murray on.
Brown 6. Did OK I thought apart from one run when he failed to use the ball effectively.
Izquierdo 5. Would like to see him starting in place of March next weekend or given much longer as a sub. There's undoubtedly talent there to be uncovered ... at least I hope so after what we paid for him.
Ryan 8. Good goalkeeper.
Bruno 6. Not at his best. Some poor passing.
Duffy 6. Some poor distribution.
Dunk 8. Good game in the main, but managed two raking cross-field balls straight into touch in the first three minutes.
Bong 7. Good game both defending and going forward except for that cross right at the end.
Stephens 7. Much better performance than of late. Houghton obviously explained to him the benefits of passing to his own side.
Propper 6. Needs to get more involved.
Knockaert 7. Some good, some not so good, and needs to cut out the petulance.
March 5. Was looking forward to him starting, but after a good first half he had a rotten second half. Should have been subbed.
Gross 7. Decent game. Lots of running.
Murray 7. Reasonable preformance apart from the penalty miss.
Subs:
Hemed 5. Better to have kept Murray on.
Brown 6. Did OK I thought apart from one run when he failed to use the ball effectively.
Izquierdo 5. Would like to see him starting in place of March next weekend or given much longer as a sub. There's undoubtedly talent there to be uncovered ... at least I hope so after what we paid for him.
I thought he played well in the first half, like he did early season. Yes he fell away as the game wore on and we got bogged down, but no other out field players impressed particularly.
BensGrandad
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As with most his final ball was poor.
Maybe so, but what options are there when he lifts his head up? There is no pace or little movement.
Correct...this is our biggest problem. Whoever has the ball in CM or anywhere further forward usually has no option ahead of them. Gross usually too deep, the two CMs don’t get forward at all and Murray is too slow and easily tracked by CBs in the PL.
BensGrandad
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That is why I think that we need either to play Sam Baldock or sign an AM who can score goals in the Joao Texiera mould when he was here on loan. Is that Grujic of Liverpool such a player?
British Grenadier
I hate P*rtsm**th
Ryan - 9, two maybe three double saves - he deserved the Motm award
Bruno 6
Dunk 7 - I love it when he goes forward, he has the skills and should do it more often.
Duffy 7
Bong 6.
Knockhaert - 7.5. Full of running but I wish he would learn when to release / pass the ball to his team mates. Very frustrating when he gets up to the 18 yard line and then finds himself surrounded by opposing players
Propper 6 - quiet game.
Stephens 6 - sits too deep on occasion
March 6
Gross 6 - was also guilty of going 2/3rds of the way up the pitch and releasing the ball about 5/6 yards later than he should have done.
Murray 7
Brown 4 - I haven't been impressed by him at all.
Izquerdo 5
Hemed 6
Hughton 5.5 - what was the point in bringing Izquerdo on with 8 minutes to go? What's a subtitute going to do in that time? Either bring them on in the 70th minute, or not at all.
Summary - frustrating
Bruno 6
Dunk 7 - I love it when he goes forward, he has the skills and should do it more often.
Duffy 7
Bong 6.
Knockhaert - 7.5. Full of running but I wish he would learn when to release / pass the ball to his team mates. Very frustrating when he gets up to the 18 yard line and then finds himself surrounded by opposing players
Propper 6 - quiet game.
Stephens 6 - sits too deep on occasion
March 6
Gross 6 - was also guilty of going 2/3rds of the way up the pitch and releasing the ball about 5/6 yards later than he should have done.
Murray 7
Brown 4 - I haven't been impressed by him at all.
Izquerdo 5
Hemed 6
Hughton 5.5 - what was the point in bringing Izquerdo on with 8 minutes to go? What's a subtitute going to do in that time? Either bring them on in the 70th minute, or not at all.
Summary - frustrating
Two days later having had time to reflect and see MOTD I think it only fair to reevaluate a couple of my scores
Knockaert 7.5 could have had a hat trick on another day
Murray 7 should have had a second penalty
Izquirerdo 4.5 no one likes a diver
Ryan - 8 - Some more gold standard saves;
Bong - 7 - Decent, doesn't get forward as much but against better opposition;
Dunk - 7 - Usual stuff
Duffy - 7 - Same as Dunk
Bruno - 6 - Starting to creak a bit...
Stephens - 7 - Solid, but a bit lax in posession
Propper - 7 - Same as Stephens
March - 5 - Seems to have good back two steps, seems reluctant to try an beat a man anymore and his delivery has regressed
Knockaert - 6 - Double marked for most of the game, seems easily frustrated
Gross - 6 - Seemed well off the pace today
Murray - 7 - Missed his chance but is getting in positions to take them
Subs:
Izquierdo - 6 - On about 20 mins too late, looked lively but couldn't influence the game too much
Brown - 4 - Doesn't run, does one thing then stands back to admire his work. Looks like a young Championship player to me
Hemed - 6 - Hassled and harried but wasn't hugely supplied by wingers
A couple of points overall:
I think we need to pick a left winger and stick to them for a few games. Keep chopping and changing does nothing for their form or consistency. March was dropped when in the form of his life, Izquierdo was dropped when he was gaining confidence and Izzy Brown is not by any stretch of the imagination a winger. I'd play Izquierdo, and give him a run for 5 or 6 matches.
Knockaert is suffering from not poor form but a mixture of poor support, better opposition and no competition for his spot.
That's all. Disappointing not to win, but a point is a point!
Bong - 7 - Decent, doesn't get forward as much but against better opposition;
Dunk - 7 - Usual stuff
Duffy - 7 - Same as Dunk
Bruno - 6 - Starting to creak a bit...
Stephens - 7 - Solid, but a bit lax in posession
Propper - 7 - Same as Stephens
March - 5 - Seems to have good back two steps, seems reluctant to try an beat a man anymore and his delivery has regressed
Knockaert - 6 - Double marked for most of the game, seems easily frustrated
Gross - 6 - Seemed well off the pace today
Murray - 7 - Missed his chance but is getting in positions to take them
Subs:
Izquierdo - 6 - On about 20 mins too late, looked lively but couldn't influence the game too much
Brown - 4 - Doesn't run, does one thing then stands back to admire his work. Looks like a young Championship player to me
Hemed - 6 - Hassled and harried but wasn't hugely supplied by wingers
A couple of points overall:
I think we need to pick a left winger and stick to them for a few games. Keep chopping and changing does nothing for their form or consistency. March was dropped when in the form of his life, Izquierdo was dropped when he was gaining confidence and Izzy Brown is not by any stretch of the imagination a winger. I'd play Izquierdo, and give him a run for 5 or 6 matches.
Knockaert is suffering from not poor form but a mixture of poor support, better opposition and no competition for his spot.
That's all. Disappointing not to win, but a point is a point!
Withdean11
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Ryan - 8
Bruno - 6.5
Duffy - 7
Dunk - 7
Bong - 6.5
Knockaert - 7.5
Propper - 7
Stephens - 7
March - 6
Gross - 7.5
Murray - 6
Bruno - 6.5
Duffy - 7
Dunk - 7
Bong - 6.5
Knockaert - 7.5
Propper - 7
Stephens - 7
March - 6
Gross - 7.5
Murray - 6