At last the correct ratingn for Vicente. If I knew he was going to play for 90 minutes at that standard then I'd happily pay another £10 for my seat. Sublime.
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Player Rating- Blackburn (H)
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At last the correct ratingn for Vicente. If I knew he was going to play for 90 minutes at that standard then I'd happily pay another £10 for my seat. Sublime.
My comments aren't meant to explain the rating exactly, more just additional comments.
darters74
New member
You are joking aren't you? Is he actually a real goalkeeper or was he a comedian? Done his best to let us score n the first half when Buckley fluffed a shot, then dropped a ball above his head, got lucky by saving Hammond's first header with his shoulder and everything else was straight at him!
BUTTERBALL
East Stand Brighton Boyz
Kuszczak - 6 - not much to do
Bruno - 5 - poor crossing, better when under pressure. Calde deserves to start at present
Upson - 6 - solid enough, passing good
El-Abd - 6 - hoofed the ball in the air once or twice but solid
Bridge - 7 - some nice skill at times
Bridcutt - 7 - busy game
Hammond - 7 - looked back to what he is capable of, good performance
Buckley - 5 - has been off the pace for a while now, seems to have stopped running past players although Olsson was strong. Service from Bruno was poor.
Vicente - 8 - MOM performance, at the heart of everything good. Looked like he had the ball on a string tied to his ankle at times.
Hoskins - 7 - really really unlucky. Feel for him. Looked sharp and dangerous until he was subbed.
Ulloa - 6 - worked extremely hard and has skill. Still getting used to the physical side of the English game.
Subs:
Orlandi - 7 - much better than Saturday.
LuaLua - 6 - thought he had scored near the end. Should have been on earlier.
All in all, a great performance sadly not the result. Blackburn's Olsen brothers stood out for them and the goalkeeper Kean. Jordan Rhodes touched the ball about 4 times all night and three of those were passes back.
Bruno - 5 - poor crossing, better when under pressure. Calde deserves to start at present
Upson - 6 - solid enough, passing good
El-Abd - 6 - hoofed the ball in the air once or twice but solid
Bridge - 7 - some nice skill at times
Bridcutt - 7 - busy game
Hammond - 7 - looked back to what he is capable of, good performance
Buckley - 5 - has been off the pace for a while now, seems to have stopped running past players although Olsson was strong. Service from Bruno was poor.
Vicente - 8 - MOM performance, at the heart of everything good. Looked like he had the ball on a string tied to his ankle at times.
Hoskins - 7 - really really unlucky. Feel for him. Looked sharp and dangerous until he was subbed.
Ulloa - 6 - worked extremely hard and has skill. Still getting used to the physical side of the English game.
Subs:
Orlandi - 7 - much better than Saturday.
LuaLua - 6 - thought he had scored near the end. Should have been on earlier.
All in all, a great performance sadly not the result. Blackburn's Olsen brothers stood out for them and the goalkeeper Kean. Jordan Rhodes touched the ball about 4 times all night and three of those were passes back.
Wasn't it Rhodes who slipped on the hard surface in front of the west stand and ate the barrier..poor guy..
Kuszczak - 7
Bruno - 5 - Was the man playing right back at the beginning of the season an imposter?
Upson - 7
El-Abd - 6 - At fault for goal
Bridge - 7 - Drifted off the far post for goal. Another player who has lost confidence in taking men on.
Bridcutt - 7 Quiet for him
Hammond - 5 - Continues to decline through balls, playing as a striker with him must be so frustrating. 2 sitters missed.
Buckley - 6 - Below par. Sits there looking for the ball so often and they don't give it to him, especially in the second halves.
Vicente - 8 - MOM can be even better
Hoskins - 6 - Didn't notice him until he went off.
Ulloa - 7 - Hopefully will come good
Subs:
Orlandi - 6 - Too similar to Vicente to play with him
LuaLua - 6 - Very frustrating, can't seem to string 2 good performances together
Team - 9 - I know strange as ratings lower but I thought the team as a whole played really well. An early goal and we would have buried them.
Gus - 9 - Good team selection but would have replaced Hoskins with CMS.
Bruno - 5 - Was the man playing right back at the beginning of the season an imposter?
Upson - 7
El-Abd - 6 - At fault for goal
Bridge - 7 - Drifted off the far post for goal. Another player who has lost confidence in taking men on.
Bridcutt - 7 Quiet for him
Hammond - 5 - Continues to decline through balls, playing as a striker with him must be so frustrating. 2 sitters missed.
Buckley - 6 - Below par. Sits there looking for the ball so often and they don't give it to him, especially in the second halves.
Vicente - 8 - MOM can be even better
Hoskins - 6 - Didn't notice him until he went off.
Ulloa - 7 - Hopefully will come good
Subs:
Orlandi - 6 - Too similar to Vicente to play with him
LuaLua - 6 - Very frustrating, can't seem to string 2 good performances together
Team - 9 - I know strange as ratings lower but I thought the team as a whole played really well. An early goal and we would have buried them.
Gus - 9 - Good team selection but would have replaced Hoskins with CMS.
Arkwright
Arkwright
I know we all see the game from a different perspective but I thought for the first time this season that Hammond had a better performance than Bridcutt and yet everyone scores Bridcutt miles better.
Hammond was everywhere and I thought linked up really well with Vicente, yes he missed two headers but both where on target and produced two great saves. He got into goal scoring positions and yet was back covering with Bridcutt. You really can't fault Hammond's fitness or competitiveness.
To me Bridcutt slowed the play down and his passing was well off.
Hammond was everywhere and I thought linked up really well with Vicente, yes he missed two headers but both where on target and produced two great saves. He got into goal scoring positions and yet was back covering with Bridcutt. You really can't fault Hammond's fitness or competitiveness.
To me Bridcutt slowed the play down and his passing was well off.
willalbion
Well-known member
Hammond had a great game, his best for the Albion so far.
BensGrandad
New member
Kuszczak 6 Could have done better with the goal.
Bruno 7 Gettin back to his previous form?
El Abd 7 Solid and dependable
Upson 7 Good all round performance will be an asset
Bridge 7 Dependable in Defence and got forward well.
Bridcuutt 7 Kept prodding forward and held the midfield.
Buckley 6 Good when on the wing but not there long enough kept moving central and offered nothing then
Hammond 8 Very good poerformance and with a little luvck would have scored.
Vicente 9 MOM and provide the skill that we have rarely seen in the past. Lets hope for the future.
Ulloa 7 Good link man up front but doesnt seem an old fashoined target man.
Hoskins 7 Best 20 mins since joining us sadly it was cut short.
Subs
Orlandi 7 Linked up well with Vicente and made some important tackles.
Lua Lua 5 Promises a lot and produces very little or nothing at all.
Bruno 7 Gettin back to his previous form?
El Abd 7 Solid and dependable
Upson 7 Good all round performance will be an asset
Bridge 7 Dependable in Defence and got forward well.
Bridcuutt 7 Kept prodding forward and held the midfield.
Buckley 6 Good when on the wing but not there long enough kept moving central and offered nothing then
Hammond 8 Very good poerformance and with a little luvck would have scored.
Vicente 9 MOM and provide the skill that we have rarely seen in the past. Lets hope for the future.
Ulloa 7 Good link man up front but doesnt seem an old fashoined target man.
Hoskins 7 Best 20 mins since joining us sadly it was cut short.
Subs
Orlandi 7 Linked up well with Vicente and made some important tackles.
Lua Lua 5 Promises a lot and produces very little or nothing at all.
LadySeagull
Well-known member
Must have been watching a different game than me then. Hammond is fairly shocking every game for me, in that he is always a yard too slow to move and a second too slow to anticipate the ball coming to him. Scary sometimes the way you can see the pass coming his way before he does and then he ends up losing it.
kevo
Well-known member
- Mar 8, 2008
- 9,801
It's ridiculous, isn't it... one of the best performances from a Brighton side I've ever seen I think - apart from the end product, we were absolute class. But still people on here giving some of the players 5 or 6 out of 10. FFS - you obviously never saw Ashley Neal in action.
Nor Mickey Bennett!
Agree with that. Pleased that Gus paid absolutely no attention to all those on here calling for him to be dropped after the Hull game.
Average player rating
Vicente 8.97
Bridcutt 7.86
Bridge 7.01
Upson 6.99
Kuszczak 6.89
El Abd 6.88
Ulloa 6.74
Hammond 6.65
Hoskins 6.41 (43min)
Buckley 5.66 (75min)
Bruno 5.55
Sub
Orlandi 6.73 (54min)
Lualua 5.59 (22min)
Team Average 6.76 (less than v Hull!)
Vicente 8.97
Bridcutt 7.86
Bridge 7.01
Upson 6.99
Kuszczak 6.89
El Abd 6.88
Ulloa 6.74
Hammond 6.65
Hoskins 6.41 (43min)
Buckley 5.66 (75min)
Bruno 5.55
Sub
Orlandi 6.73 (54min)
Lualua 5.59 (22min)
Team Average 6.76 (less than v Hull!)
Being everywhere is definitely one of Hammond's strengths. Good stamina, no pace, tends to slow our attacks down when he gets the ball in an attacking move, makes some poor choices sometimes when passing the ball out of defence. He certainly played better Tuesday than Saturday. I think the second header was more ball hit keeper than keeper made save.
Ridiculous, isn't it? We played much better on Tuesday, out of this world at times: yet it's hard to spot a player who is seriously underrated there: I think Hammond and Buckers should both be rated a bit higher. I didn't think Buckley did as badly as some people have scored him.
Jimmy Grimble
Well-known member
haha.
Shows how result-dependent player ratings are. A lot of us are probably guilty of it, especially when giving ratings immediately after the match; as others have said, that was one of our better performances this season. Also surprised (in fact maybe not) how low Hammond's rating is. Bridcutt really didn't play that much better than him. Think someone alluded to it the other day, Hammond is definitely second-in-line for excessive negative feedback after Barnes.
It really was a much better performance than v Hull.
I can understand not giving marks lower than an 8, I mean, the defence weren't significantly tested that often, and yet still conceded, the attack had plenty of opportunities and failed to convert almost all of them, and the midfield had plenty of loose passes and crosses that weren't to one of our players, but that is nitpicking. I still feel every player deserved at least a 7.
I think it works both ways. Where there are players who are rated lower because of who they are (like barnes, cms, hammond, dicker etc) there are players who are rated higher because of who they are (Bridcutt, Lualua, Buckley, dare I say it, Vicente - he was great on tuesday, but even his off days are rated higher).
Yeah, there is definitely a bias with results as well.
I can understand not giving marks lower than an 8, I mean, the defence weren't significantly tested that often, and yet still conceded, the attack had plenty of opportunities and failed to convert almost all of them, and the midfield had plenty of loose passes and crosses that weren't to one of our players, but that is nitpicking. I still feel every player deserved at least a 7.
I think it works both ways. Where there are players who are rated lower because of who they are (like barnes, cms, hammond, dicker etc) there are players who are rated higher because of who they are (Bridcutt, Lualua, Buckley, dare I say it, Vicente - he was great on tuesday, but even his off days are rated higher).
Yeah, there is definitely a bias with results as well.
Jimmy Grimble
Well-known member
Agreed. Heat of the moment skews people's ratings, as does the perceived importance and expectation of getting a result from the match. A lot of people expected 3 points and knew how vital they would be. If that was a game earlier in the season, or if we were already in the play-offs and the result didn't affect our position, the ratings would have been higher.
How does the average rating from the Blackburn match stand up against other games we've drawn this season?
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
- 9,972
Now I know why I disagree with so many of your posts, we appear to be watching completely different matches