It wasn't one mad moment though was it? He deliberately hid medical notes over a long period of time. Supposedly told someone he would do something that would change aviation. He Knew his career was over if the truth came out about his health. All points to he planned this and it didn't happen on the spur of the moment.
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willyfantastic
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- Mar 1, 2009
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true - but depression shouldn't be being used as a get out of jail free card for being a complete ****, like Clarke Carlisle has been doing. He has repeatedly risked the lives of others and used it as his excuse to try and avoid criticism. it shouldn't happen with this bloke either
Indurain's Lungs
Legend of Garry Nelson
That's true. Depression is a contributory factor but personal responsibility still exists. The severest end of the disease is psychotic depression which is slightly different and certainly needs a bit more sympathy.
It's a bit like the, increasingly questioned, AA for alcoholics. Nothing is your fault and it's all OK as long as you say sorry and blame your "disease".
I bow to your superior knowledge of mental illness.
Where has Clarke Carlisle being doing that then?
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
So do you think that someone who is mentally ill has the capacity for rational thinking when they are at Rock bottom? I am not suggesting this is the case for this pilot, but in general
Megazone
On his last warning
Are we talking depression here?
Megazone
On his last warning
In certain religious contexts, evil has been described as a supernatural force. Definitions of evil vary, as does the analysis of its root motives and causes. However, elements that are commonly associated with evil involve unbalanced behaviour involving expediency, selfishness, ignorance, or neglect.
I think there's a lot on this thread alone who come under evil. Hardly the most defining diagnoses you'll here about someone.
Uncle Spielberg
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That is harsh. Do you think the bloke really wanted to be in a frame of mind where he decided to head butt a lorry ay 60 mph ? Or indeed look for suitable spots to hang himself for 2 days ? Does this make him a ****, it appears so. The problem is with this sort of thing that the people who are the harshest and most lacking in empathy are the ones who have probably never had to go through it. It is an issue that will always be divisive. I have not seen anyone excuse this pilots behaviour and some have been made to look bad themselves for looking at the bigger picture and trying to find answers before making a definite decision. Of course the fact he took 149 people with him defaults that he was evil. 99% of people who have decided to end it will do it in a private and dignified manner, that is what is so hard to square with this Man. He deserves and will get no sympathy but it is important as something surely must be learned to look back at the sequence of events and the triggers for future cases to try, if at all possibly to prevent such a tragedy happening again.I think that is what a lot of people are trying to explain
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
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You can throw the Thesaurus around all you like but flying a plane into a mountain, killing 150 innocent people is evil whatever way you want to cut it.
Throwing around a few insults on a message board doesn't fall into that category.
Megazone
On his last warning
Claiming he was evil is like saying he was bad. It shouldn't take rocket science to work out what's wrong or right?
Lubitz supposed mental illness is the harder thing to understand.
pastafarian
Well-known member
There is no religious context here,stop inventing sh1t
My definition of evil is defined by the meaning of the word ie profoundly immoral and wicked. This act of killing 150 people was both wicked and immoral,therefore evil,There is no need to overthink this as you are doing.
Good site.
I notice a couple of people point out the captain doesn't seem to try the lock again, just bangs on door
pastafarian
Well-known member
claiming he was evil is saying his action of killing 150 people was both wicked and immoral,the very definition of evil.
its your choice to say his actions were not wicked or immoral,that is your view..........but you are wrong.
Megazone
On his last warning
What do we learn from the 'fact' he was evil?
pastafarian
Well-known member
we learn that evil people like him are capable of carrying out acts that are immoral and wicked in new ways that will totally bewilder us.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Evil people shouldn't fly passenger planes?
Megazone
On his last warning
How do we prevent this in the future?
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
The crash?By not allowing one person to be in the cockpit alone.
Hillian1
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I see the pseudo intellectual is trying it's level best to derail another thread.