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[Travel] Petrol price hike



Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
*awaits [MENTION=435]Stat Brother[/MENTION] to come along and explain how much it costs to fill his bicycle*

Odd thing to say my bicycle doesn't need any fuel so doesn't cost anything.

My car, on the other hand, had £50+ of petrol one day last week, and the same again yesterday having been to Aston on Saturday.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,339
Withdean area
I struggle to understand why, even when petrol was cheaper, I see people filling up at a BP or Texaco for example when their will be an ASDA or Morrisons quite close by or other supermarkets.
If I travel to London I always brim it as cheaply as possible before I leave and again before I return.
If I need petrol and I am on a motorway, I leave the motorway at a town exit and find the nearest supermarket, I never fill up at a motorway services it is an insane price and a total rip off.

I worked with a car fanatic, his reasoning was that the supermarkets sell crap fuel, whilst Shell sell the business. Far better for his engine. He wasn’t well off financially at all ….it seemed a dumb moved.

The rest - people can’t be bothered to drive an extra mile. The 4 highly expensive stations on the London Road and Dyke Road, Brighton are always packed.
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,117
Brighton
The Lewes price war makes me laugh. Tesco, every penny counts discount supermarket, and BP have a 'who can charge the most' war.
Diesel is £151.9 in Tesco & £153.9 in BP. Every time one garage puts it up the other tries to go higher with BP always 2p more than Tesco.
There is a cheaper garage on the A26 to Uckfield who in turn will be 2p cheaper.
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Odd thing to say my bicycle doesn't need any fuel so doesn't cost anything.

My car, on the other hand, had £50+ of petrol one day last week, and the same again yesterday having been to Aston on Saturday.

There is always the option to cycle to Birmingham - it's not that far.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
36,027
The Lewes price war makes me laugh. Tesco, every penny counts discount supermarket, and BP have a 'who can charge the most' war.
Diesel is £151.9 in Tesco & £153.9 in BP. Every time one garage puts it up the other tries to go higher with BP always 2p more than Tesco.
There is a cheaper garage on the A26 to Uckfield who in turn will be 2p cheaper.

thats a general BP thing, always seem to be a couple pence more than any neighbours.
 


Bob!

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Jul 5, 2003
11,639
Pease Pottage BP Service station - 167.9 per litre of unleaded.

A full 12p per litre more than my local BP garage in Ashington, which already has a reputation for being dear.

The screens on the 5 pumps around me had each spent c. £10 × 3 and £20 x 2, so nobody had come close to filling up which - for me- would have cost c.£75.

WTF?!


Did the trip down from Essex to West Sussex last week.

Pease Pottage was significantly more expensive than Clacket lane which is exclusively Motorway. Think it was 159 there.
 


zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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I'm currently @ £11.50 a day in petrol, up from £7.50 a day 18 months ago

last day 10/12 thereafter a tenner a week for my scooter, or cycle to work. We'll see how things pan out over the coming months but I really do not need a car for work any more.
 




Stat Brother

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There is always the option to cycle to Birmingham - it's not that far.

Those were the days, popping out for a quick 100-150 miles.
I'm sure I could have found an easy enough route to tack on an extra 40 miles without really noticing.


Sadly now I'm 'cycling for two' :lol: and would struggle to ride half that distance in twice the time.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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And the HMRC-dictated employer advisory mileage rate (ie what a company should reimburse employees for business miles in a company car) is still sat at 14p/mile (for 1499-2000 engines), and is 'based on an average pump price of 134.8/litre'!

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/advisory-fuel-rates

The last review date was 01.09.21. I certainly don't recall paying as low as 134 as recently as that.

Next review date is 01.12.21, and it better get revised upwards significantly, without any unnecessary delay. It is literally costing some people money to carry out work trips, right now.
 




zefarelly

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The reason branded petrol (& diesel ) is more expensive is becasue of the additives.

All diesel and petrol is the same at the depot . . . . when the tanker rocks up he presses a button, which will be labelled . . . different additives.

If you have a performance or sensitive/classic engine, better quality fuels make sense. for most of us it makes no discernable difference.

My modern Alfa is a little more economic on E10 ( in reality about 6% ethanol at the moment) than E5 . . .makes no difference if I put super in it.

My Lambretta/Cortina only gets Finest super unleaded with no ethanol.
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
The Lewes price war makes me laugh. Tesco, every penny counts discount supermarket, and BP have a 'who can charge the most' war.
Diesel is £151.9 in Tesco & £153.9 in BP. Every time one garage puts it up the other tries to go higher with BP always 2p more than Tesco.
There is a cheaper garage on the A26 to Uckfield who in turn will be 2p cheaper.

Even before the price rises I noticed that Morrisons in Tavistock was always more expensive than Morrisons in Plymouth.
Probably due to less competition (1 other Texaco) and Tavistock being mostly a well off town, that is no reason to hike prices IMO.
I Can't remember where but my brother went to a country where all prices were the same in every filling station.
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Guiseley
Even before the price rises I noticed that Morrisons in Tavistock was always more expensive than Morrisons in Plymouth.
Probably due to less competition (1 other Texaco) and Tavistock being mostly a well off town, that is no reason to hike prices IMO.
I Can't remember where but my brother went to a country where all prices were the same in every filling station.

Always seems to be about 10p/litre more down that way than it is here when we go down to visit family.
 




Monkey Man

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Jan 30, 2005
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Neither here nor there
Not to sound smug (I hope) but I'm continuing to do my 20-minute commute to work by bike even though the clocks have gone back and it's getting colder, and obviously dark on the return leg. Normally I just do it in the summer ... but with enough layers and enough lights it looks like it'll be something I'll keep going throughout the winter, except maybe when the weather is brutal.

My wife has bought a folding bike and now commutes by train. That arrangement is working well too.

We used to think that having two cars was essential ... but it turns out that 99% of the time we don't even need one (admittedly kids are now older and don't need much ferrying around). The petrol savings are going to be considerable.
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
Always seems to be about 10p/litre more down that way than it is here when we go down to visit family.

Because I live down here and in Plymouth I know where to go, generally I find our prices to be cheaper or about the same, I often drive to Sussex.
But you do have a point and my guess is that in the more popular holiday makers areas of Devon and Cornwall the price is hiked, rich 2nd home owners are too tempting.
For example the price of fuel at the 2 filling stations on the roundabout in Saltash on the A38 is eye watering but right on the route for caravanners to fill up after a long journey down or at the start of their journey home from Cornwall.
In general Cornwall rips off holiday makers across the board by hiking prices.
 


zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
Not to sound smug (I hope) but I'm continuing to do my 20-minute commute to work by bike even though the clocks have gone back and it's getting colder, and obviously dark on the return leg. Normally I just do it in the summer ... but with enough layers and enough lights it looks like it'll be something I'll keep going throughout the winter, except maybe when the weather is brutal.

My wife has bought a folding bike and now commutes by train. That arrangement is working well too.

We used to think that having two cars was essential ... but it turns out that 99% of the time we don't even need one (admittedly kids are now older and don't need much ferrying around). The petrol savings are going to be considerable.

This is kind of where we are . . .lad will be 17 in less than a year, I'll be cycling / scooter to work, Mrs Zef still working from home, we do not need 2 cars (and we have a classic)
 


Audax

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Aug 3, 2015
3,271
Uckfield
The reason branded petrol (& diesel ) is more expensive is becasue of the additives.

All diesel and petrol is the same at the depot . . . . when the tanker rocks up he presses a button, which will be labelled . . . different additives.

If you have a performance or sensitive/classic engine, better quality fuels make sense. for most of us it makes no discernable difference.

My modern Alfa is a little more economic on E10 ( in reality about 6% ethanol at the moment) than E5 . . .makes no difference if I put super in it.

My Lambretta/Cortina only gets Finest super unleaded with no ethanol.

Don't know what it's like over here, but certainly in Australia 20-some years ago another big difference between branded and non-branded/supermarket fuels was the branded stuff was generally cleaner. Probably better maintenance etc.
 




virtual22

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Nov 30, 2010
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And yet the wholesale price continues to fall:

https://www.cityam.com/oil-or-nothi...k-lows-as-covid-19-cases-surge-across-europe/

Oil prices have dropped to seven-week lows amid soaring Covid-19 cases across Europe and fresh reports that Japan could release some of its reserves to help curb prices.

This is the fourth week in a row prices have fallen after multiple rallies in October, which led to prices reaching three year highs of $86 a barrel in late October.


Up like a rocket, down like a feather is probably the best way to describe petrol prices.
 


Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
3,185
Pease Pottage BP Service station - 167.9 per litre of unleaded.

A full 12p per litre more than my local BP garage in Ashington, which already has a reputation for being dear.

The screens on the 5 pumps around me had each spent c. £10 × 3 and £20 x 2, so nobody had come close to filling up which - for me- would have cost c.£75.

WTF?!

Disgraceful profiteering. Should be outlawed.
 


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