Petition to BAN Richard Hebbard for 2 games

[NMH]

f*** me, you're a tedious bore at times.

Thanks! You are a tedious bore all the time, so at least I'm occasionally interesting.

You'll have to work on your 'cutting remarks' there pooty, you are coming across as weak and ineffectual.

...oh, and I notice you are cutting into lots of threads lately to deride them or start a binfest.
Heavy period for you, is it?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

This bloke was shouting obscenities...you DO understand that don't you?

But those around him dispute this so called fact. So what you're saying is that a group of stewards from the trackside were more able to identify what he was saying than those around him ?

From my experiencing of stewarding Withdean it's close to impossible to make out what someone is saying from the trackside. In my time it was obvious certain stewards looked at people and marked their cards.

In my stand that I used to steward was a bloke with a shaved head and tattoos all over. We used to chat before kickoff about football and life in general ( as I used to with other regulars in my stand ). Very occasionally he got over passioned and swore. Each time I'd have a brief chat next time I saw him and he's apologise. Anyhow, because he was loud and because of his appearance some response stewards and my supervisor kept a close eye on him. On a number of occasions he would shout very loudly but without swearing and I'd be told to have a word - everytime I refused. Once the response stewards came up and had a word with him and I intervened and told them they were wrong and to go away. The arguement in the signing out room with that response teams supervisor was unbelievable - "You don't tell my team what to do" etc etc etc.

The fault of the current situation lies almost entirely with the response stewards and their bullying ways. Out of the dozens I have worked with I can count on one hand the number that understood customer service and diplomacy. Most of them are thick meatheads who just have a "I'm better than you" attitude.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

Thanks!
You are a tedious bore all the time, at least I'm occasionally be interesting.

You'll have to work on your 'cutting remarks' there pooty, you are coming across as weak and ineffectual sunshine

Gawd whatever you do don't get PNFE started on the buses NMH.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Those are the facts, and there's so little else to say about this, that I won't post any more about it.

Hurrah!

Suffice to say that if you really don't comprehend this now........

Oh. He fibbed.

...... then you aren't going to with any more explanation.

Never mind - it looks like he's finally finished.

..Football is no longer in the dark ages of yob culture, women and children now attend without fear of getting caught up in dangerous situations or ducking from missiles. Past disasters have given attention to the need for correct behavior from clubs and fans, and - just like when you go (and pay) to a night club where you prefer to feel socially protected - trained staff are there to look after the well-behaved majority.

The steward training, by the way, has been increasingly monitored and refined by the authorities, to City and Guilds standards. Our stewards carry out the rules they are trained for, and many hold National Vocational Qualifications, or further Security certifications.
This is all for the fans' benefit, even though you occasionally will not agree with the carrying-out of their duties

Oh, Christ. He's off on one again.

The End

I doubt it. I really do.



..and all this from a steward who didn't even see the incident. Amazing, eh?

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Thanks! You are a tedious bore all the time, so at least I'm occasionally interesting.

You'll have to work on your 'cutting remarks' there pooty, you are coming across as weak and ineffectual.

...oh, and I notice you are cutting into lots of threads lately to deride them or start a binfest.
Heavy period for you, is it?

That's better. Do you want me to go back and delete your original post that I quoted where you came across as a bit of an angry spaz? It's no trouble. Just say the word and we can pretend your original post had never happened.

 

[tedebear]

Yes that's all very impassioned, but over dramatic bandwagoneering like this whole thread has been.

The banned fan was not "innocent" and I expect he knows it. The reason he was singled out for attention is because he singled himself out from the crowd in an antisocial manner (and against the simple rules).
It is done, to control 'sore thumbs' so that the majority of the fans do not have to put up with someone else's idea of how to behave.
You really ought to be aware of how one person can spoil your experience, and sometimes many others' experience of entertainment. Try sitting next to someone even whispering at a film theatre! This bloke was shouting obscenities...you DO understand that don't you? If allowed to continue, there WILL be others who respond to that, either in similar fashion or in getting agitated against it. Stewards got there first, and nipped that in the bud.
He was sequestered once out of the stand, to avoid drama or unavoidable distraction in the stands and during the game.
HE required that stewards came "out of the background", he made it necessary.
Richard Hebbard has spoken with him, the lad now knows the score, and perhaps the rest of you who rail against it ought to figure it out too. His penitence is not too great and takes care of a situation well enough for all parties.

Those are the facts, and there's so little else to say about this, that I won't post any more about it. Suffice to say that if you really don't comprehend this now, then you aren't going to with any more explanation.

Football is no longer in the dark ages of yob culture, women and children now attend without fear of getting caught up in dangerous situations or ducking from missiles. Past disasters have given attention to the need for correct behavior from clubs and fans, and - just like when you go (and pay) to a night club where you prefer to feel socially protected - trained staff are there to look after the well-behaved majority.

The steward training, by the way, has been increasingly monitored and refined by the authorities, to City and Guilds standards. Our stewards carry out the rules they are trained for, and many hold National Vocational Qualifications, or further Security certifications.
This is all for the fans' benefit, even though you occasionally will not agree with the carrying-out of their duties.

The End

Good god, you've made a meal of "little else to say"...

My comment was more about the fact that if you lot are denying you need to learn anything from it that therein lays the problem. The draconian whisperering, staring and finger pointing is what pissed people off. I'm sure he knows he's not innocent, but that wasn't my point which you so widely missed.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

What did the guy who has been banned actually do?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What did the guy who has been banned actually do?

NHM with his sonic bat hearing says swearing, everyone sitting around the bloke says nothing - take your pick !

 

[Ian Bairds Fist]

Yes that's all very impassioned, but over dramatic bandwagoneering like this whole thread has been.

The banned fan was not "innocent" and I expect he knows it. The reason he was singled out for attention is because he singled himself out from the crowd in an antisocial manner (and against the simple rules).
It is done, to control 'sore thumbs' so that the majority of the fans do not have to put up with someone else's idea of how to behave.
You really ought to be aware of how one person can spoil your experience, and sometimes many others' experience of entertainment. Try sitting next to someone even whispering at a film theatre! This bloke was shouting obscenities...you DO understand that don't you? If allowed to continue, there WILL be others who respond to that, either in similar fashion or in getting agitated against it. Stewards got there first, and nipped that in the bud.
He was sequestered once out of the stand, to avoid drama or unavoidable distraction in the stands and during the game.
HE required that stewards came "out of the background", he made it necessary.
Richard Hebbard has spoken with him, the lad now knows the score, and perhaps the rest of you who rail against it ought to figure it out too. His penitence is not too great and takes care of a situation well enough for all parties.

Those are the facts, and there's so little else to say about this, that I won't post any more about it. Suffice to say that if you really don't comprehend this now, then you aren't going to with any more explanation.

Football is no longer in the dark ages of yob culture, women and children now attend without fear of getting caught up in dangerous situations or ducking from missiles. Past disasters have given attention to the need for correct behavior from clubs and fans, and - just like when you go (and pay) to a night club where you prefer to feel socially protected - trained staff are there to look after the well-behaved majority.

The steward training, by the way, has been increasingly monitored and refined by the authorities, to City and Guilds standards. Our stewards carry out the rules they are trained for, and many hold National Vocational Qualifications, or further Security certifications.
This is all for the fans' benefit, even though you occasionally will not agree with the carrying-out of their duties.

The End

Oh dear NMH (aka Richard Hebbard), you seem to be making more enemies than your friend on your avatar picture!

Firstly, you DO realise that I was sat directly behind the guy in question for the whole game, DON'T you? I'd argue that I was in a better position than you and can verify that there were NO obscenities.

You're right though, we have buried the yob culture and in turn we've replaced it with an over-zealous stewarding culture.

What you're doing clearly isn't in the fans' benefit, as you've seen by the amount of support 'Mouth' has received on the other thread. Reverse the ban and save some face - at least come out of this with some dignity. In the process you might want to review some of your last posts to long-established, credible contributors to this forum. It doesn't put you in the best light when you're preaching about 'anti-social manners'.

 

[jimmypbha]

Signed, utter

 

[Jim D]

....we have buried the yob culture and in turn we've replaced it with an over-zealous stewarding culture....

You make it appear that it's a 'like for like' replacement, but I don't see Stewards ripping up seats or attacking other supporters. If that is the case (and i don't see it where I sit - E block) then I'd rather have it that way.

 

[Harold]

Sit near steve and witnessed incident. The response stewards clearly feel they have a score to settle with this loud vocal passionate fan (maybe all such fans ahead of leaving withdean). The big show they put on again for us in D and E block was purely show boating, they must thrive on it. If not, why abandon all common sense and general principles of crowd control to antagonise a large section of fans. They treated steve badly at the end, and were rude to many other fans whilst escorting him out. If this behaviour is laid down by mr hebbard, lord knows how he ever got to be in charge at wembley, and the north London derbies, before joining us. Amongst the steward at withdean right now are some power hungry loons I'm afraid. Clear as day from the south stand.

 

[CAPTAIN GREALISH]

signed

 

[wigman]

Signed.

 

[bhaexpress]

This incident happened right in front of me, the bloke was a lot calmer than I would have been under the circumstances, the stewards acted like utter vaginas. If it was me I think I would have battered them, they are arrogant scum and frankly we would be better off without them.

 

[glasfryn]

always the same when you give some people uniforms or power of any sort,
if he is as bad as most say
life ban
this might give anyone else who thinks the club will stand for bullies something to mull over.

 

[Giraffe]

Hebbard seems like a nice man but the club have clearly messed this up big time and the stewards are long overdue a complete overhaul as all they are doing is pissing off the brave few who try to get the atmosphere going so happy to sign the intention of the thread.

 

[Ian Bairds Fist]

You make it appear that it's a 'like for like' replacement, but I don't see Stewards ripping up seats or attacking other supporters. If that is the case (and i don't see it where I sit - E block) then I'd rather have it that way.

..because the Withdean faithful are notorious for ripping out seats and attacking other supporters.

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

Don't ban him. Get him to answer some bloody questions and concerns from supporters!

 

[Mayfair Seagull]

Delighted to sign this. Hebbard's actions are far more offensive than anything Steve's ever shouted.

I'm shocked by how appalling the stewarding is becoming at Withdean. The club must do something to stop this before what's left of an 'atmosphere' is completely killed off.