[Albion] Percy Tau / Alexis Mac Allister

[nwgull]

Neither qualify for a work permit yet. Unless the U.K. rules have changed, it takes more than just one international cap (for a high ranking side) or a few champions’ league games.

 

[darkwolf666]

Can't bear the term "tinpot". It's so........

Me neither, that's why I put it in " "

 

[darkwolf666]

So good enough for the Bernabau in Europe
But only good enough for The New Den in England.

Didn't you know Millwall are the new Barcelona?

 

[London Irish]

There's no justification whatsoever for the continued use of the term potterball.

It’s the NSC equivalent of dragging fingernails down a chalkboard

 

[London Irish]

It the message doesn’t get through to all the Brexit supporting bozos that we have far higher immigration restrictions even as a member of the EU than the rest of Europe, then it never will. Thanks to all the xenophobes for messing up our team building

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

As well as those two I suspect we will se Jayson Molumby back with the squad next season, most likely as cover and competition for Dale Stephens.

 

[Swansman]

Neither qualify for a work permit yet. Unless the U.K. rules have changed, it takes more than just one international cap (for a high ranking side) or a few champions’ league games.

I think they both have a great chance getting permitted by the Exception panel.

Most likely they will both be joining Brighton for the preseason, Potter will have a look at them and take a decision.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Tau and Macca certainly seem the type if players to move the ball quickly with single touches and constantly move into space.

A slightly more interesting question is whether or not Izquierdo can play Potter Ball?

Hmm. Not sure if he could play in the Premier League at all now. I like the guy and he's quirky, what with the miniature pig. But a one footed speedster who has had a serious injury has a long way to go to reach Potter's Premier League capabilities.

 

[studio150]

One of my son's friends is travelling in South America currently, and attended a recent Boca game.

So my son asked him how did MacAllister look.

The reply, Boca were rubbish but I was drunk and have no idea how individual players performed.

So still relying on highlights rather than a live assessment

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

They've been on loan long enough though now. Decision time on whether to bring them in or move them on.

I'd like to see them and have no reason to suspect they wouldn't fit in. It would allow us to move one or two on and keep a decent squad size.

There's no justification whatsoever for the continued use of the term potterball.

They are not on loan because we need to make a decision on if we want them or not, they are on loan as they are not currently eligible for a work permit to play in this country. Their loan moves this season are helping them gain points towards their work permit (Tau playing in the Champions League, Mac Allister in the Copa Libertadores and his call ups for Argentina).

Hopefully they are both quite close to satisfying the criteria required for a work permit, someone did break down what was required on the Percy Tau thread and the thoughts were Club Brugge qualifying for the group stage of the Champions League take him over the number of points required.

Neither qualify for a work permit yet. Unless the U.K. rules have changed, it takes more than just one international cap (for a high ranking side) or a few champions’ league games.

You are correct about more than just one international cap, but playing in the group stage of the Champions League is enough to satisfy that particular criteria and gain the point towards the work permit. The whole system is point based and as i said above someone else has analysed Tau's points and it looks like he would qualify now.

 

[clapham_gull]

These are Brexit punt signings though on the "gamble" that the rules will be adjusted in favour of players like this.

Horses mouth etc..

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

These are Brexit punt signings though on the "gamble" that the rules will be adjusted in favour of players like this.

Horses mouth etc..

Without wishing to turn this thread into some sort of Brexit argument, us being in or out of the EU will have no bearing on Tau and Mac Allister getting work permits as each country set their own immigration/work permit criteria for non-EU nationals. That is why Tau can play for a Belgian club but not us, both countries are in the EU but Belgium have a totally different set of rules to the UK.

 

[clapham_gull]

Without wishing to turn this thread into some sort of Brexit argument, us being in or out of the EU will have no bearing on Tau and Mac Allister getting work permits as each country set their own immigration/work permit criteria for non-EU nationals. That is why Tau can play for a Belgian club but not us, both countries are in the EU but Belgium have a totally different set of rules to the UK.

I fully understand there are rules specific to footballers that been have devised by the FA in conjunction with Home Office. It's called a "Governing Body Endorsement"

There is an expectancy within the game that the rules will change (alongside the overriding immigration laws) in favour of players like these.

"The applicant must have participated in a minimum set percentage of their home country’s senior competitive international matches during the two years (or one year if under 21) preceding the date of application." - does NOT APPLY to fruit pickers.

They are a Brexit punt.

 

[nwgull]

They are not on loan because we need to make a decision on if we want them or not, they are on loan as they are not currently eligible for a work permit to play in this country. Their loan moves this season are helping them gain points towards their work permit (Tau playing in the Champions League, Mac Allister in the Copa Libertadores and his call ups for Argentina).

Hopefully they are both quite close to satisfying the criteria required for a work permit, someone did break down what was required on the Percy Tau thread and the thoughts were Club Brugge qualifying for the group stage of the Champions League take him over the number of points required.



You are correct about more than just one international cap, but playing in the group stage of the Champions League is enough to satisfy that particular criteria and gain the point towards the work permit. The whole system is point based and as i said above someone else has analysed Tau's points and it looks like he would qualify now.

If they don’t qualify automatically from international appearances, the need 4 points to qualify by the exceptions panel. They get 1 point for playing in 30% of their clubs respective continental championships and a point for playing in one of Europe’s top 6 leagues (although I’m not sure Belgium is in the top 6) or South America’s top 2 leagues. So the other 2 points need to be made up from either their transfer fees or wages being >50th centile, so if they are good enough then I guess they’d just need a new contract to qualify if they really were good enough.

 

[Stat Brother]

Neither qualify for a work permit yet. Unless the U.K. rules have changed, it takes more than just one international cap (for a high ranking side) or a few champions’ league games.

My understanding, albeit only from here, is that they both missed out under the exceptional rules totting up procedure because of their lack of 'exceptionalness'.

They have now each gained a further very very valuable point.

I also think, although this is obviously shrouded in secrecy, that hefty pay rises, bringing them in line with the first team squad, would also generate a point.

 

[nwgull]

Without wishing to turn this thread into some sort of Brexit argument, us being in or out of the EU will have no bearing on Tau and Mac Allister getting work permits as each country set their own immigration/work permit criteria for non-EU nationals. That is why Tau can play for a Belgian club but not us, both countries are in the EU but Belgium have a totally different set of rules to the UK.

I think the theory is that the U.K. will need to reduce its requirements for immigrants from everywhere to get work permits, otherwise there will be a skills shortage in stuff such as healthcare. Whether or not this will make a difference to work permit requirements for elite level footballers is debatable.