[Albion] Penalty Save

[Bob!]

Very good save at a crucial time but it was a poor penalty as he made it obvious where he was going to put it. When was the last one saved by our keeper presumably Brezovan.

Somehow I felt that was coming

Scarcastic!!!!

 

[Triggaaar]

The difference.

What about it?

Those that want to may see what we have been saying and at the same time taking nothing away from DS as it was an important moment of the game.

Not at all. One penalty was taken better than the other, but 1) that's not relevant. You can post videos of many penalties that are unsaveable, but that doesn't take anything away from Stockdale's save, and 2) part of the reason Caddis didn't do better is because of Stockdale's movement before the shot, which is credit to Stockdale. Caddis could have done better (obviously, as is the case with every single penalty ever saved), but that doesn't mean it was a poor effort.

 

[BensGrandad]

What about it?

Not at all. One penalty was taken better than the other, but 1) that's not relevant. You can post videos of many penalties that are unsaveable, but that doesn't take anything away from Stockdale's save, and 2) part of the reason Caddis didn't do better is because of Stockdale's movement before the shot, which is credit to Stockdale.

Will you not concede that had Caddis hit it harder he may have scored, irrespective of Stockdales movement.

 

[Sheebo]

Wow this thread has showen many posters up that have a very basic knowledge of football!

 

[Triggaaar]

Will you not concede that had Caddis hit it harder he may have scored

To be pedantic, so we know exactly what we mean, it depends how much harder - 1% harder, Stockdale would still have saved it, 100% harder, no keeper would ever save it.

So what?

You're simply saying that it could have been struck better, and been unsaveable - well of course it bloody could, the same applies to every penalty ever saved! That doesn't mean it wasn't a good save. And I know you said it was a good save, but you have (whether intentionally or not) undermined that by saying it was a poor shot. I disagree - of course it could have been better (as above, all failed penalties could be), but not all failed penalties are poor shots, and I think this one a) wasn't that bad, and b) one reason it wasn't as good as it could have been is because of Stockdale's movement, so instead of taking credit away from Stockdale for that, I'd give him more credit.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Will you not concede that had Caddis hit it harder he may have scored, irrespective of Stockdales movement.

You can say that about pretty much every save a keeper makes that wasn't pretty much straight at him, if Pele had headed the ball harder Banks would never have made that save in the 1970 World Cup, routine save really . It means nothing in the context of what Stockdale did, Caddis didn't hit the ball harder, it was still well hit, Stockdale still had to get down and across his goal well and get a hand on it. It was a very good save, but you can't see it because your grasp and understand of basic goalkeeping is non existent and has been shown up in many threads time and time again.

 

[BensGrandad]

I am sure if asked Gary Rowett would say it was a poorly struck penalty.

 

[sdmartin1]

I am sure if asked Gary Rowett would say it was a poorly struck penalty.

Save your breath BG. People stating their opinions as if they are facts leads to a rather circular thread.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

I am sure if asked Gary Rowett would say it was a poorly struck penalty.

And if Stockdale had gone the other way I'm sure he'd say it was a perfectly struck penalty.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Save your breath BG. People stating their opinions as if they are facts leads to a rather circular thread.

That's pretty much what you and BG are doing though, right?

 

[perseus]

What do you see? Does it show that Stockdale knew which way he was going to dive before (or at the same time that) Caddis took the shot?

It actually appears that Stockdale was slightly to the his right side of the goal, but I think that is a trick of the lens and angle that the picture was taken and Stockdale was nearly in the centre of goal.

Even so, it was amazing he got down to save the shot.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

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What do you see? Does it show that Stockdale knew which way he was going to dive before (or at the same time that) Caddis took the shot?

It actually appears that Stockdale was slightly to the his right side of the goal, but I think that is a trick of the lens and angle that the picture was taken and Stockdale was nearly in the centre of goal.

Even so, it was amazing he got down to save the shot.

Keep going Pers, you're bang on the money with this one.

 

[aolstudios]

This is just page after page of pointless bullshot, isn't it.
BG decided some time ago he didn't like Stockdale & as on so many other threads will say & twist anything to justify his original assertion & the thread, like so many others has been hijacked by that.
I'm bored now

 

[BensGrandad]

I will admit to the view that he was a poor replacement for TK but have said many times that he has improved from a horrendous start to his Brighton career but now consider him to be adequate for our needs.

 

[Everest]

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What do you see? Does it show that Stockdale knew which way he was going to dive before (or at the same time that) Caddis took the shot?

It actually appears that Stockdale was slightly to the his right side of the goal, but I think that is a trick of the lens and angle that the picture was taken and Stockdale was nearly in the centre of goal.

Even so, it was amazing he got down to save the shot.

He was in the centre of the goal, but about a yard in front of the line. The angle the photo was taken from makes it look like he was slightly nearer the far post.

A bit like the Forestieri, non-goal for Watford last season.

 

[Brighton Mod]

Great save, game changer, gave everyone belief. Should have been man of the match!

 

[sdmartin1]

When did I say Stockdale was lucky? Whether you like it or not there is always an element of chance when a penalty is taken, pundits and players alike have described penalty shoot outs as 'lotteries', of course I didn't mean it literally but it saves me typing 2 paragraphs to express the probability/chance aspect in depth. Stockdale went the right way and as I've said I think Caddis will be unimpressed with his penalty. Nonetheless, it was good goalkeeping.

Where did I say we can't ever say the keeper made a good save? As I've stated, I didn't feel as though it was a powerful penalty, Stockdale had time to get down and got a strong hand to it, and pushed it away from the danger zone. In my personal opinion it was good goalkeeping, but i'm sure if you asked, Caddis, or the Birmingham attacking coach they would be disappointed in the quality of the penalty as it gave Stockdale a good opportunity to save.

That's pretty much what you and BG are doing though, right?

Ermmm, no.

 

[Everest]

Ermmm, no.

Ermmm, yes

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Ermmm, no.

Ermmm, yes.

You've stated it wasn't a powerful penalty and Stockdale had time to save it. That's very much you, stating your opinion, as fact.

 

[BensGrandad]

From those stills he is going to his left, his feet are in front of the E of England and his shoulders between N and G so to me that is going to his left. Could of course be the angle of the picture, if so ignore me, not unusual.