[Albion] Paul Barber interview on BT Sport at 7.15pm

[WATFORD zero]

Very true.

Steve Lansdown is similar to TB, he’s mentioned us as the model he follows.

Whereas the likes of Mel Morris follow the old model of the combative, sacking and busibodying owner-manager. Kneejerkism leaves them in the EFL.

Not enough of these to go around.

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[maffew]

PB is a very smart man as we know, and likely I would think is more valuable to the club/Tony than any manager or player, very very difficult to replace. Wonder how long he will stay. I'm sure there is a top job at the PL or FA if and when he wants it

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

We're held up as a club to replicate but TB holds nearly 100% of the club's equity, which in any other club would be a really dangerous position. I would hate to see him forced to sell equity so that he had less than 50%, and it'd also worry me how we raise upwards of £250m to allow this, can't see the forty note fund coping with that!

Would the fans need to actually stump up the cash? Surely a premier league rule giving the right to veto any board decision by the membership is all that is needed?

To make this viable, The membership vote in an election for a proxy spokesperson to sit on the board. The spokesperson would be sanctioned to cast the membership collective vote on minor issues. On larger decisions, like joining a super league, the spokesperson would take the issue to the membership to vote upon.

Things like transfers would remain under the owners control.

This would serve the same purpose without diluting the owners investment.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

At the very end.

I found that cringy and awkward.

Perhaps it's just me!

Yeah, I did think that a little bit. It sounded like he didn't really know how to finish the segment, started down one track and didn't really have anywhere else to go

Despite the 'Brighton/Norwich style of play' thing that blew up, I don't actually mind JH. He's better than a lot of presenters, IMO.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Would the fans need to actually stump up the cash? Surely a premier league rule giving the right to veto any board decision by the membership is all that is needed?

To make this viable, The membership vote in an election for a proxy spokesperson to sit on the board. The spokesperson would be sanctioned to cast the membership collective vote on minor issues. On larger decisions, like joining a super league, the spokesperson would take the issue to the membership to vote upon.

Things like transfers would remain under the owners control.

This would serve the same purpose without diluting the owners investment.

I think that is where the discussions would start for any 50+1 model here.

 

[dazzer6666]

Paul Barber, as well as being CEO & Vice-Chairman of our club, has also worked at a high level for Spurs, and the FA, so has considerable experience of how football, as a business, actually works, and how the media operates.

It's almost as though Tony worked out what was needed and then went to the market to find the best guy in the business and convinced him to join................just like he would in his main business

 

[Altered State]

Ha yep.

Sometimes i wonder if Tony likes having Barber doing media coverage galore because it keeps people about how well run we are, a distraction from the fact we have a billionaire fan owner who generously picks up the bill for pretty much anything we want.

Thought the Barbs interview on the club website/Times was good. From what I can see he's said the same thing on SSN, talksport and BT Sport as well.

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One of the aspects of us being a well-run club is TB not picking up the tab for anything we want. If GP asks for, say, £100m this summer to change our difficulty with goal scoring, I would expect TB to say "no". Not because he cannot afford it, but because he wants to club, over time, to be more self-sustaining.

Of course we're in the position we are because of the money TB has 'loaned' the club, and because he has recruited wisely. But there are boundaries. I guess one of his skills is knowing when to gamble and when to be careful.

Would be interesting to know how he views possible changes in football club structure. Although we know he's one of the good guys, it would be difficult not to include his ownership within rules designed to weaken the influence of 'billionaires'. David Conn of The Guardian has some good ideas about the way forward. Fans having a seat on the board, and a 'golden ticket' (without having to find millions of pounds to buy up shares) could be runners.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/22/after-the-super-league-fiasco-five-reforms-that-could-save-the-game

 

[Weststander]

It's almost as though Tony worked out what was needed and then went to the market to find the best guy in the business and convinced him to join................just like he would in his main business

Only after both Peter Risdale and Katrien Meire turned TB down.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Only after both Peter Risdale and Katrien Meire turned TB down.

Are you sure? Peter Ridsdale was at Plymouth in 2011, and then when Ken Brown was sacked, Ridsdale had been banned from being a director.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19819177

 

[Weststander]

Are you sure? Peter Ridsdale was at Plymouth in 2011, and then when Ken Brown was sacked, Ridsdale had been banned from being a director.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19819177

I was being silly, picking two walking disasters. We know TB is too shrewd for that.

Risdale now runs Preston NE.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I was being silly, picking two walking disasters. We know TB is too shrewd for that.

Risdale now runs Preston NE.

Yes, I know.

It seems I have been whooshed!

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

One of the aspects of us being a well-run club is TB not picking up the tab for anything we want. If GP asks for, say, £100m this summer to change our difficulty with goal scoring, I would expect TB to say "no". Not because he cannot afford it, but because he wants to club, over time, to be more self-sustaining.

Of course we're in the position we are because of the money TB has 'loaned' the club, and because he has recruited wisely. But there are boundaries. I guess one of his skills is knowing when to gamble and when to be careful.

Would be interesting to know how he views possible changes in football club structure. Although we know he's one of the good guys, it would be difficult not to include his ownership within rules designed to weaken the influence of 'billionaires'. David Conn of The Guardian has some good ideas about the way forward. Fans having a seat on the board, and a 'golden ticket' (without having to find millions of pounds to buy up shares) could be runners.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/22/after-the-super-league-fiasco-five-reforms-that-could-save-the-game

Totally agree with this, although I'd argue it's off the pitch we have a largely blank cheque book.

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[Altered State]

Totally agree with this, although I'd argue it's off the pitch we have a largely blank cheque book.

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On reflection you may well be right about investment off the pitch.

 

[Goldstone1976]

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Nah - closer to this:

"007 FINE GAUGE MOCK TURTLE NECK SWEATER" from the 'On her Majesty's Secret Service James Bond' collection (I shit you not).

£179 to you, Sir

 

[dazzer6666]

Nah - closer to this:

"007 FINE GAUGE MOCK TURTLE NECK SWEATER" from the 'On her Majesty's Secret Service James Bond' collection (I shit you not).

£179 to you, Sir

Not Mustardy enough

 

[Goldstone1976]

Not Mustardy enough

True; but I bet he'd love the 007 connection...

 

[WATFORD zero]

True; but I bet he'd love the 007 connection...

Nah, he's gone 'all because the lady loves Milk Tray' lately

 

[Goldstone1976]

Nah, he's gone 'all because the lady loves Milk Tray' lately

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Would the fans need to actually stump up the cash? Surely a premier league rule giving the right to veto any board decision by the membership is all that is needed?

To make this viable, The membership vote in an election for a proxy spokesperson to sit on the board. The spokesperson would be sanctioned to cast the membership collective vote on minor issues. On larger decisions, like joining a super league, the spokesperson would take the issue to the membership to vote upon.

Things like transfers would remain under the owners control.

This would serve the same purpose without diluting the owners investment.

Possibly, you'd need a very different type of investor, I'd say. I stump up £400m+ and don't have control over the club?

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Possibly, you'd need a very different type of investor, I'd say. I stump up £400m+ and don't have control over the club?

Essentially control does remain in the owners hands, as long as they make decisions that are in the club's interests.

Football fan's are only interested in what's best for their club, as long as it doesn't ruin the sport.

The owner should have no worries regarding the threat of veto as there is no reason for the clubs members to do anything that goes against the club's interests.

It's a simple solution that protects both club and the sport.