[Albion] Paths to Europe - Is this correct?

[Mustafa II]

So there is an unlikely scenario where Man Utd & Chelsea win the Europa League and Champions League respectively, while both finishing outside the top 4, resulting in only the top 3 qualifying for the Champions League... but I'll ignore that for now.

Otherwise it'll be:

- Top four qualify for Champions League

- 5th place qualifies for Europa League

- FA Cup winner OR 6th place team, depending if winner has already qualified for Europe, qualifies for Europa League

- As Man Utd have won the League Cup and are likely to qualify for Europe, then 6th or 7th place teams (depending on FA Cup winner) will qualify for the Europa Conference.


So in summary,

- WInning the FA Cup would qualify us for the Europa League regardless of league position.

- Finishing 5th guarantees a Europa League spot in all likely scenarios.

- Finishing 6th would qualify us for Europa League, unless Sheffield United win the FA Cup, in which case it would qualify us for Europa Conference (unless Man Utd fall outout of top 5 as well)

- Finishing 7th would qualify us for Europa Conference, unless Man Utd fail to win FA Cup AND drop out of top 6, or Sheffield Utd win the FA Cup.


Think I've got my head round it anyway. Is this all correct??

 

[Triggaaar]

Yes, except for your last line (Finishing 7th):

If Man U drop out of the top 6/7, and they win the FA cup:

Top 4 = CL
5th = Europa
Man U = Europa
6th = Conf
7th = nadda

So your line should say:
"Finishing 7th would qualify us for Europa Conference, unless Man Utd drop out of top 6, or Sheffield Utd win the FA Cup.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

What if West Ham win the conference league?

 

[Stat Brother]

After not winning any of the next 4 games do we get to sing a long slow lament of:-

"We're not going on a European tour
A European tour".

 

[Bakero]

What if West Ham win the conference league?

Now you've put a hammer in the works.

 

[Mt.Fuji]

Brighton will play in CL

4th: Brighton 67 points
5th: New Castle 66 points
6th: Tottenham 65 points
7th: Liverpool 64 points

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Whilst I appreciate all of the positive talk of aiming for the Champions League, with the teams up there and our run in, realistically it’s not going to happen.

But 6th is definitely very realistic and absolutely should be the position we should aim to finish in as a minimum now which would guarantee Europe.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

What if West Ham win the conference league?

It shouldn't matter as we'd be awarded an extra place in the Europa League (not 100% sure that is the rule but it's same as if a side from outside of the top 4 won the Champions League we'd be allowed a 5th team in the competition*)

*If teams won the CL and the Europa League but didn't qualify for Europe through League positions both would go into the Champions League and the 4th place team would drop into the Europa League, again this would create an extra place in the Europa League for that season.

 

[PeterT]

Is there still a path through winning the Fair Play league? I think Fulham have now blown that one, if that helps!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What if West Ham win the conference league?

The EU will not allow this.

 

[Triggaaar]

Whilst I appreciate all of the positive talk of aiming for the Champions League, with the teams up there and our run in, realistically it’s not going to happen.

No shit (although I appreciate your need to post it, because some have got carried away)

But 6th is definitely very realistic and absolutely should be the position we should aim to finish in as a minimum now which would guarantee Europe.

Sorry to be boring here, but we don't actually aim to finish in a position, we aim to win every game.

I'd be very happy with finishing 7th, because it's not likely Sheffield will win the cup.

 

[Mustafa II]

No shit (although I appreciate your need to post it, because some have got carried away)



Sorry to be boring here, but we don't actually aim to finish in a position, we aim to win every game.

I'd be very happy with finishing 7th, because it's not likely Sheffield will win the cup.

Man Utd dropping out of top 6 is another scenario where 7th won't be enough, isn't it? Although admittedly that isn't very likely either.

 

[Triggaaar]

Man Utd dropping out of top 6 is another scenario where 7th won't be enough, isn't it? Although admittedly that isn't very likely either.

Yes, that's what I said:

Yes, except for your last line (Finishing 7th):

If Man U drop out of the top 6/7, and they win the FA cup:

Top 4 = CL
5th = Europa
Man U = Europa
6th = Conf
7th = nadda

So your line should say:
"Finishing 7th would qualify us for Europa Conference, unless Man Utd drop out of top 6, or Sheffield Utd win the FA Cup.

I realise I didn't say it in the later post when just saying I'd be happy with 7th, but then I didn't mention one of our teams winning a European competition this year either because I don't think it's likely we'll miss out that way.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Is there still a path through winning the Fair Play league? I think Fulham have now blown that one, if that helps!

Only if we go back 9 years in time

 

[Mustafa II]

Yes, that's what I said:

They don't need to win the FA Cup though, as they will then occupy the Europa Conference spot, should they fail to finish top 6.

 

[dazzer6666]

Whilst I appreciate all of the positive talk of aiming for the Champions League, with the teams up there and our run in, realistically it’s not going to happen.

But 6th is definitely very realistic and absolutely should be the position we should aim to finish in as a minimum now which would guarantee Europe.

You wouldn’t say that within punching distance of Roberto.

 

[Triggaaar]

They don't need to win the FA Cup though, as they will then occupy the Europa Conference spot, should they fail to finish top 6.

No one said they need to win the FA cup. Your first post said "- Finishing 7th would qualify us for Europa Conference, unless Man Utd fail to win FA Cup AND drop out of top 6, or Sheffield Utd win the FA Cup."

but it wouldn't matter whether Utd win the FA cup or not - either way, 7th wouldn't get Europe if they drop out of the top 7.

 

[Mt.Fuji]

Manchester City can be punished before this summer? If they are punished, 5th club can play in Champions League next season, right?

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Sitting in a coach for 48 hours at Dover (thanks, Boris !) , will certainly appeal !

 

[LANGDON SEAGULL]

What about the Intertoto cup? Is that still going ?