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Pascal Groß - what do we think?



trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,955
Hove
In pre-season he was the stand out player more than once. Needs to be given time to make an impact.
 




Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
8,996
Seven Dials
As others have has said, he may or may not be a decent number ten but we won't know until he plays with a better number nine.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
I think that given time he will become a good AM not so sure about filling the No10 role (whatever that is) as per Sam Baldock or being a support striker. I am sure he will be at his best coming from deep to attack.
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
As others have has said, he may or may not be a decent number ten but we won't know until he plays with a better number nine.

That was always said about CMS except we always claimed 'once CMS has a decent number 10 playing next to him, he'll start turning it on'. Once that number 10 was finally brought in (Ulloa) CMS was dropped.
 


Kazenga <3

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Feb 28, 2010
4,870
Team c/r HQ
Very good with space in front of him and options to pick out, pretty poor with his back to the goal I think. Needs to get used to the physicality and desperately needs pacy outlets around him. I get the impression he's more suited to playing a bit deeper at the tip of a midfield three, rather than a number 10.
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Hindered by the lack of movement/pace ahead of him.
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,136
He looked amazing in pre-season. Genuinely surprised he hasn't featured more in the league games.
Maybe this has more to do with not having a midfield pairing that have gelled yet, than whether he will be able to adapt to the Prem.
 






Johnny RoastBeef

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Jan 11, 2016
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He looks like he hasn't come to terms with the physicality of the Premier League yet.

As has already been said, he needs pace around him as he doesn't have a lot himself, which isn't a complaint.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Seven Dials
That was always said about CMS except we always claimed 'once CMS has a decent number 10 playing next to him, he'll start turning it on'. Once that number 10 was finally brought in (Ulloa) CMS was dropped.

I think we may have to define our terms here. Ulloa was a number nine in my eyes. CMS was a support striker played out of position.
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
I think we may have to define our terms here. Ulloa was a number nine in my eyes. CMS was a support striker played out of position.

Sorry, I'm more used to saying 'Deep lying centre forward'. That's where I'd say Ulloa's natural position was. CMS was a striker who played off the shoulder. He was reliant on being feed through. Sadly, we sort of expected CMS to feed himself which he clearly wasn't good enough to do.
 




Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
He is a fantastic player who is suffering from the lack of quality in our team. When our first team is available, and we're not playing against a top 8 side, you'll see his sheer class and quality. I have no question at all that he's a wonderful player, clearly Premier League quality. Maybe he's struggling to impose himself at the moment but we've had a tough start and the whole team is taking time to adapt. I think the whole team is going to be stronger against West Brom at the Amex in a couple of weeks.
 








DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
6,819
Wiltshire
it hasn't been an eye catching start by any means, but he will come good in a box to box rather than creative role.
Of more concern is propper . I'm not sure his style is suited to the premier league.
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
He should be our most creative player but he's the least creative. Hopefully gets dropped for brown who would be awesome in that role.

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:thumbsup:
 




Finchley Seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
6,916
North London
I am thinking we shouldn't be judging players after three games. There seems to be a decision among some on here to criticise our summer signings already. Ryan should be replaced, Propper is terrible, Gross is too slow. In the same way you can't judge the league table until 10 games are gone, the same should be the case for new signings, especially ones who have never played in England before.

I look forward to post West Brom match when people inevitably write off our new striker(s) as they've not scored.
 






Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
22,115
Cowfold
I am thinking we shouldn't be judging players after three games. There seems to be a decision among some on here to criticise our summer signings already. Ryan should be replaced, Propper is terrible, Gross is too slow. In the same way you can't judge the league table until 10 games are gone, the same should be the case for new signings, especially ones who have never played in England before.

I look forward to post West Brom match when people inevitably write off our new striker(s) as they've not scored.

In precisely the same way as some on here only need to see a thirty second video clip of some unknown prospective new signing to declare how brilliant he is, and how we must break the bank to get him. None of us will know how good or otherwise a player is, until he has played at least a dozen games for us.
 


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