[Albion] Pascal Gross' goal celebrations - or lack of

[Beanstalk]

Firslty, what 'potential' rule are you referring to? Also, one still of Trippier turning doesn't mean he instructed to wait in the oppo half. Looks more like in that photo that he is turning to celebrate with the bench.

I am referring to Law 8 and in particular these two clauses;

• all players, except the player taking the kick-off, must be in their own half
of the field of play
• a goal may be scored directly against the opponents from the kick-off

It was pretty well documented throughout the world cup, and that Trippier photo comes from an article directly referencing this (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-rule-that-made-trippier-celebrate-without-his-england-team-mates-pht6wp669 or https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/19/world-cup-celebration-rules-player-still-pitch-prevents-quick-kick), that there was serious confusion as to the nuances of the Kick-Off Law.

Personally, and the reason I stated in the brackets that I don't think it exists, I think that the law clearly states that opponents have to be in their own half rather than not in the opposition half so players doing this is silly.

However, if you look at the footage of Murray's winner at Birmingham, Norwood's lack of celebration clearly stops Birmingham from taking a quick kick off and scoring (as our players famously ran into our own half to celebrate) so making sure that we have a player who "takes one for the team" and stands in the opposition half, preventing the game from restarting, is clearly something that is a conscious decision made by the coaching staff. Better safe than sorry.

 

[dazzer6666]

He is an absolute legend.

However, he did look incredibly nervous before he took the penalty and then it wasn't exactly the most convincing penalty you'll ever see which worries me a little going forward. Who's the next cab on the rank? I can imagine Bissouma would be an excellent penalty taker.

He's German. Sunday night he will have calmly and carefully analysed the whole sequence from start to finish, calculated where the nerves started and why, and worked out a detailed plan for the next one, which he will then have practiced at least 100 times on Monday until he's got it perfect.

Failing that, Toner Hemed.

Oh.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

He is an absolute legend.

However, he did look incredibly nervous before he took the penalty and then it wasn't exactly the most convincing penalty you'll ever see which worries me a little going forward. Who's the next cab on the rank? I can imagine Bissouma would be an excellent penalty taker.

It might have something to do with the ref making him wait about five minutes to take the damn thing! But no, not a good pen and he got away with it. He seemed to change his mind on it for some reason during the run-up...

 

[drew]

I am referring to Law 8 and in particular these two clauses;

• all players, except the player taking the kick-off, must be in their own half
of the field of play
• a goal may be scored directly against the opponents from the kick-off

It was pretty well documented throughout the world cup, and that Trippier photo comes from an article directly referencing this (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-rule-that-made-trippier-celebrate-without-his-england-team-mates-pht6wp669 or https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/19/world-cup-celebration-rules-player-still-pitch-prevents-quick-kick), that there was serious confusion as to the nuances of the Kick-Off Law.

Personally, and the reason I stated in the brackets that I don't think it exists, I think that the law clearly states that opponents have to be in their own half rather than not in the opposition half so players doing this is silly.

However, if you look at the footage of Murray's winner at Birmingham, Norwood's lack of celebration clearly stops Birmingham from taking a quick kick off and scoring (as our players famously ran into our own half to celebrate) so making sure that we have a player who "takes one for the team" and stands in the opposition half, preventing the game from restarting, is clearly something that is a conscious decision made by the coaching staff. Better safe than sorry.

The rule is that all players must be in their own half, ie both teams, except for one. Problem solved if your team come back to their own half and celebrate over the touchline, ie they are not then in their own half as they are not on the pitch!

 

[PoG]

Approach the pile on - Stop.
Walk off in the other direction - Check
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You didn't notice him walking away with a limp? Looked to me like he felt his hamstring twinge.

 

[Stat Brother]

You didn't notice him walking away with a limp? Looked to me like he felt his hamstring twinge.

Are you saying he may never play again.

There just aren't enough beds in the Sam Baldock Memorial Treatment Centre.

 

[Gazwag]

Well he ain't listening is he! (and long may that continue)

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Look like somebody missed the goal after going to grab a bottle of coke

 

[Dancin Ninja BHA]

It might have something to do with the ref making him wait about five minutes to take the damn thing! But no, not a good pen and he got away with it. He seemed to change his mind on it for some reason during the run-up...

Personally, I thought it was more to do with the fact that he got up from the tackle grimacing, and didn't look entirely comfortable (physically) throughout his wait to take the penalty. Whatever...…. he scored, just, and celebrated appropriately!!

 

[LlcoolJ]

Look like somebody missed the goal after going to grab a bottle of coke

And looks like it was Paul Merson.

 

[The Large One]

I am referring to Law 8 and in particular these two clauses;

• all players, except the player taking the kick-off, must be in their own half
of the field of play
• a goal may be scored directly against the opponents from the kick-off

It was pretty well documented throughout the world cup, and that Trippier photo comes from an article directly referencing this (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-rule-that-made-trippier-celebrate-without-his-england-team-mates-pht6wp669 or https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/19/world-cup-celebration-rules-player-still-pitch-prevents-quick-kick), that there was serious confusion as to the nuances of the Kick-Off Law.

Personally, and the reason I stated in the brackets that I don't think it exists, I think that the law clearly states that opponents have to be in their own half rather than not in the opposition half so players doing this is silly.

However, if you look at the footage of Murray's winner at Birmingham, Norwood's lack of celebration clearly stops Birmingham from taking a quick kick off and scoring (as our players famously ran into our own half to celebrate) so making sure that we have a player who "takes one for the team" and stands in the opposition half, preventing the game from restarting, is clearly something that is a conscious decision made by the coaching staff. Better safe than sorry.

I remember reading about that during the World Cup, and it came across as press-fabricated nonsense. As you say, the Law is crystal clear - "all players, except the player taking the kick off, must be in their own half of the field of play".

 

[Brightonfan1983]

He is an absolute legend.

However, he did look incredibly nervous before he took the penalty and then it wasn't exactly the most convincing penalty you'll ever see which worries me a little going forward.

Oh I dunno. He didn't have a great game and I felt the pen summed that up. I did wonder why he took it and not Murray?

 

[The Large One]

Oh I dunno. He didn't have a great game and I felt the pen summed that up. I did wonder why he took it and not Murray?

Because Gross is the team's nominated penalty taker.

 

[Stat Brother]

Oh I dunno. He didn't have a great game and I felt the pen summed that up. I did wonder why he took it and not Murray?

Because Gross is the team's nominated penalty taker.

Taking over the job after Murray missed his second of the season.
So far, Groß has a 100% record from penalties, gotta wonder why that isn't good enough?

 

[spence]

He is an absolute legend.

However, he did look incredibly nervous before he took the penalty and then it wasn't exactly the most convincing penalty you'll ever see which worries me a little going forward. Who's the next cab on the rank? I can imagine Bissouma would be an excellent penalty taker.

The length of time Friend dragged out the penalty was a joke. He added to the huge pressure. Noticed there penalty was nowhere near the delay Gross had to endure

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Taking over the job after Murray missed his second of the season.
So far, Groß has a 100% record from penalties, gotta wonder why that isn't good enough?

Never said it wasn't good enough, just wondered why he looked quite so nervous and then took a slightly poor penalty, albeit one that did creep in. It was something picked up on by the wider audience, not just Brighton fans. Obviously he will carry on taking them until he does miss a few like Murray but no harm in asking who would be next in that eventuality or if Gross is off the pitch as he is usually substituted when he has run himself ragged.

 

[spence]

Never said it wasn't good enough, just wondered why he looked quite so nervous and then took a slightly poor penalty, albeit one that did creep in. It was something picked up on by the wider audience, not just Brighton fans. Obviously he will carry on taking them until he does miss a few like Murray but no harm in asking who would be next in that eventuality or if Gross is off the pitch as he is usually substituted when he has run himself ragged.

2 out of 2 so far. Not the greatest penalty but why a negative post ? Deary me. Some people amaze me.

 

[dazzer6666]

The length of time Friend dragged out the penalty was a joke. He added to the huge pressure. Noticed there penalty was nowhere near the delay Gross had to endure

Partly because there was only about 20 seconds left and KF knew his post-match pint was being poured

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

2 out of 2 so far. Not the greatest penalty but why a negative post ? Deary me. Some people amaze me.

It's not meant to be negative, just constructive!! I don't see the harm in debating who the next penalty taker would be in the event Gross isn't on the pitch or not taking them anymore. It's a minor discussion point, not a criticism, in response to how nervous he seemed taking the penalty as noticed by most people who watched it.

 

[TSB]

Germans don't miss penalties.

 

[The Large One]

It's not meant to be negative, just constructive!! I don't see the harm in debating who the next penalty taker would be in the event Gross isn't on the pitch or not taking them anymore. It's a minor discussion point, not a criticism, in response to how nervous he seemed taking the penalty as noticed by most people who watched it.

I believe the pecking order is Gross - Murray - Stephens.

And if none of them are on the pitch, our chances of being awarded a penalty in the first place are virtually nil anyway.