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Herr Tubthumper

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surely there must be a maximum distance for signs as 100mtrs apart seems a long way as she would have needed to have walked 50 metres from the car to read it.

You're daughter screwed up. No big deal but she should take this one on the chin in my opinion.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Always appeal. Even go to the tribunal if necessary. It costs nothing to you but costs the council quite a bit, so they often back down.

Alternatively take responsibility for your own actions? Pathetic weasels like you are an emabarassment.
 












LadySeagull

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Alternatively take responsibility for your own actions? Pathetic weasels like you are an emabarassment.



Personally I find pathetic yes-men worse.

A Council says a person has to pay a fine because one of their outsourced 'NSL' (private company) weasel staff issued a PCN.

Said weasel staff member appears to have made a rash decision, could it be because he/she is targetted to issue a certain amount per day or face disciplinary action?

The PCN appears to be unfair but the good news is there is a statutory appeals procedure available for free to the OP, with an independent adjudicator at the end.

Posters on here point out the fact that most people win PCN appeals...




...but you honestly think because the Council says the fine should be paid that the people should just roll over and pay up? Really?
 




Manx Shearwater

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You're daughter screwed up. No big deal but she should take this one on the chin in my opinion.

When, according to the OP, the signs may well be completely incomprehensible?

If it was obvious, I might be inclined to agree with you, but since when have all council tickets been issued correctly, every time?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Personally I find pathetic yes-men

I find your obsession with parking f***ing wierd to be honest. And if you're implying that I'm a yes man then you seriously do not know me.

...but you honestly think because the Council says the fine should be paid that the people should just roll over and pay up? Really?

Yes. I do. It's not about rolling over. It's about having a basic understanding that there is a need for parking regulation and abiding by it. I have no issue with people challenging incorrectly applied tickets (and from personal experience neither do the council) but I have a major issue with the types who will challenge any ticket just for the sake of it. If you don't like it f*** off out of Brighton or don't f***ing visit. If you want to fight a fight choose something more worthy....and I don't mean suing the council because you tripped over a curb stone. Take responsibility for your own actions so if you park illegally cough up. Every time you challenge you're costing tax payers money, money that could be better spent.

You think you're some sort of self-styled people's champion; reality is youre an obsessed drain on Brighton tax payers.
 
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chimneys

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I find your obsession with parking f***ing wierd to be honest. And if you're implying that I'm a yes man then you seriously do not know me.



Yes. I do. It's not about rolling over. It's about having a basic understanding that there is a need for parking regulation and abiding by it. I have no issue with people challenging incorrectly applied tickets (and from personal experience neither do the council) but I have a major issue with the types who will challenge any ticket just for the sake of it. If you don't like it f*** off out of Brighton or don't f***ing visit. If you want to fight a fight choose something more worthy....and I don't mean suing the council because you tripped over a curb stone. Take responsibility for your own actions so if you park illegally cough up. Every time you challenge you're costing tax payers money, money that could be better spent.

You think you're some sort of self-styled people's champion; reality is youre an obsessed drain on Brighton tax payers.

Beautifully put HT!

I sincerely hope she (and the other parking obsessives on here) have even remotely similar passion for the important matters in life, but somehow I doubt it!!
 




Manx Shearwater

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My 'self-righteous meter' has just gone off the end of the scale.

I hope you two don't ever find yourselves on the end of a dodgily issued ticket. I somehow doubt it though, seeing as you're both clearly perfect.

Oh well, maybe the rest of us should aspire to be more like you!
 


Zamora For England

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Got a parking ticket in Burgess Hill once, appealed on the grounds that the 'No Parking Between xx and xx' was completely obscured by ivy and there were no signs in immediate sight. Appealed, the council weren't interested. Luck of the draw, I suppose.
 


LadySeagull

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Beautifully put HT!

I sincerely hope she (and the other parking obsessives on here) have even remotely similar passion for the important matters in life, but somehow I doubt it!!



You have no idea about my other passions, thank goodness!

And Herr Tubthumper's post is so full of rage - when all we are doing is passing on some informed advice - it's not worthy of a reply.
 




LadySeagull

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Got a parking ticket in Burgess Hill once, appealed on the grounds that the 'No Parking Between xx and xx' was completely obscured by ivy and there were no signs in immediate sight. Appealed, the council weren't interested. Luck of the draw, I suppose.


Nope, that's par for the course. Most Councils refuse most informal appeals because they know plenty of people will believe their rejection letter as it's on headed notepaper, written in legalese (template paragraphs of course) and makes the bribe of the discounted fine seem like some sort of bargain. It's a game of bluff to make the majority of people just pay them some money, even where there's a good case the answer is almost invariably no at first along with the dangled carrot 'here's what you could have paid, 50% off, last chance!'.

You would almost certainly have won at the formal appeal stage or at adjudication.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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You have no idea about my other passions, thank goodness!

And Herr Tubthumper's post is so full of rage - when all we are doing is passing on some informed advice - it's not worthy of a reply.

More like you have no reply.
 


LadySeagull

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More like you have no reply.

Who could reply to your tirade of F-words telling me to get out of Brighton just because I help advise people online how to get off parking fines?!!!!!!!!!!!

You did protest too much...I was wondering if perhaps you work for the Council though and are worried about your pension or something?
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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My 'self-righteous meter' has just gone off the end of the scale.

I hope you two don't ever find yourselves on the end of a dodgily issued ticket. I somehow doubt it though, seeing as you're both clearly perfect.

Oh well, maybe the rest of us should aspire to be more like you!

I have only owned a car for a short period of my life and I got about 5 tickets and had my car towed twice. I took 4 tickets and one tow on the chin as it was my own personal fuckwittery at fault. One ticket was in my opinion over zealous and is documented earlier in this thread. One of the tows was due to a bay being temporarily suspended after I'd parked in it. I'm far from perfect, but, I know when I have made a mistake and I know my responsibilities. Due to the way Brighton council dealt with me the same can be said for them.

PS I have good reason to dislike parking in Brighton as well since I cannot park outside my house and have to pay to park someway down the road due to the George Street regulations. But, I accept it.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Who could reply to your tirade of F-words telling me to get out of Brigton just because I help advise people online how to get off parking fines?!!!!!!!!!!!

You did protest too much...I was wondering if perhaps you work for the Council though and are worried about your pension or something?

On reflection I sincerely apologise for swearing. Uncalled for. But my sentiment still stands. And no I don't work for the council.
 


LadySeagull

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On reflection I sincerely apologise for swearing. Uncalled for. But my sentiment still stands. And no I don't work for the council.


Apology accepted.

Still wondering why it is so important to you though. You aren't a private parking fake ticketer in a Supermarket car park are you?!

Or even funnier, a private clamper about to lose his job? No apology offered whatsoever to any private clamper on here, it's always been a criminal 'job' for violent knuckle draggers only - without exception - and the clamping ban on October 1st can't come soon enough!
 


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