Parking fine is it worth appealing ?

[Neil]

Daughter only been driving a few months and parks in town (Eastbourne)
Sees the pay and display and sign says 'Pay and Display or permit holders' and buys a ticket for 2 hours.
Comes back well before the 2 hours are up and has a £70 Parking ticket.
It says on the parking fine "this bay is for Permit Holders only"
The road is only 100 metres long and on the right hand side has 4 signs equidistant along the road with 3 pay machines.
She parked halfway up the road in a bay on the lefthand side .
Since found out this is for Permit holders only but it is naughty because the signs stating 'Permit Holders only' are only sited at the two ends of the road 100 mtrs apart and my daughter parked in the middle and saw the signs and payment machine and thought she was doing the right thing.
Question I am asking is , is it worth appealing the fine because surely there must be a maximum distance for signs as 100mtrs apart seems a long way as she would have needed to have walked 50 metres from the car to read it.

 

[Jimmy's gonna get ya!]

ALWAYS appeal, had many not followed through because of it.

 

[Titus]

Definitely. Take good photos to back up your case too.

 

[BensGrandad]

The golden rule appeal every council parking fine. The reduced rate is held while the appeal is going on so it will not cost you any more money. if you persist the council will usually drop it rather than go to a tribunal.

 

[element]

I got a ticket in East Grinstead in what looked like a long marked-out 'free' bay, to find there was a sign about fifty yards away obscured by a bush. When I appealed they withdrew the fine. Your daughter's case sounds a bit similar, so deffo appeal on the basis of ambiguity. Eastbourne might be a bit more lenient (hopefully) than say in Brighton...

 

[Dirk Gently]

is it the council or a private operator.

If the latter you're probably OK to ignore it. I have many times and had no comeback - a lot of the private operators rely on threats and don't follow them up because they have no strong legal rights.

 

[Manx Shearwater]

Get photos, scan the ticket and post it up on the Council Tickets forum at PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice

 

[The Large One]

Daughter only been driving a few months and parks in town (Eastbourne)
Sees the pay and display and sign says 'Pay and Display or permit holders' and buys a ticket for 2 hours.
Comes back well before the 2 hours are up and has a £70 Parking ticket.
It says on the parking fine "this bay is for Permit Holders only"
The road is only 100 metres long and on the right hand side has 4 signs equidistant along the road with 3 pay machines.
She parked halfway up the road in a bay on the lefthand side .
Since found out this is for Permit holders only but it is naughty because the signs stating 'Permit Holders only' are only sited at the two ends of the road 100 mtrs apart and my daughter parked in the middle and saw the signs and payment machine and thought she was doing the right thing.
Question I am asking is , is it worth appealing the fine because surely there must be a maximum distance for signs as 100mtrs apart seems a long way as she would have needed to have walked 50 metres from the car to read it.

Use the ambiguity in mitigation.

 

[Badger]

Surely in a situation like this they should be able to use a little bit of common sense. They can see it is an honest mistake and should be able to issue a warning instead of a fine and perhaps report the fact that people are having difficulty interpreting the signs. Of course this will never happen and they'd much rather slap a big fine on your windscreen because you've SERIOUSLY broken the rules.

 

[CP 0 3 BHA]

Certainly worth appealing.

As stated above, don't worry about the fine doubling up as the period is extended while you appeal.

Get lots of photographic evidence to support your case.

Last year I took a fine from Lambeth for parking on the South Bank all the way to a tribunal, won and was awarded costs as the photos showed the signage was inadequate and did not comply with the regulations.

 

[The Stout Yeoman]

I got a ticket in East Grinstead in what looked like a long marked-out 'free' bay, to find there was a sign about fifty yards away obscured by a bush. When I appealed they withdrew the fine. Your daughter's case sounds a bit similar, so deffo appeal on the basis of ambiguity. Eastbourne might be a bit more lenient (hopefully) than say in Brighton...

Must have been a long time ago .... I've never seen a traffic warden in East Gridlock .... (assuming it was a TW?)

 

[Manx Shearwater]

Surely in a situation like this they should be able to use a little bit of common sense.

A council??

Good Lord, no!

 

[Badger]

A council??

Good Lord, no!

I know, it is a little bit of an oxymoron but you can but dream!

 

[Manx Shearwater]

LOL!

 

[element]

Must have been a long time ago .... I've never seen a traffic warden in East Gridlock .... (assuming it was a TW?)

This was a couple of years ago. There were two TWs in a vehicle. When I asked the reason for the ticket, they pointed out the plate on a pole, about fifty yards away obscured by the bush. They suggested I appeal, which I did, successfully

 

[Camicus]

Always appeal just make sure you do it withing the 14 days or your ticket will double then double again

 

[The Stout Yeoman]

Always appeal just make sure you do it withing the 14 days or your ticket will double then double again

sorry to hear you have a lisp ...

 

[tubaman]

Where are all the PePiPoo worshipers? I love Pepipoo, I love Pepipoo!!!! NOT

 

[rocker959]

Appeal

 

[fratsomrover]

Always appeal. Even go to the tribunal if necessary. It costs nothing to you but costs the council quite a bit, so they often back down.