Absolutely disgusting, sanctioned violence against women.
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[Other Sport] Paris 2024 Olympics & Paralympics ***Official Match Thread***
- Thread starter South Stand Bonfire
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Don't know what the "Women vs Trans" debates look like in England but here it would certainly have been a lot of people on both sides of the fence.
Yes I’m sure a bunch of screaming nutters on both sides. But better than a woman being beaten by someone with the strength of a man
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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WTF! What's with the black table tennis table and purple lines and net tape? Admittedly, I'm a TT purist but it didn't need jazzing up. The drift from traditional green to blue tables was fine but this is nonsense. We changed the scoring and the ball size which we've adjusted too. What next multi coloured balls so casual fans can appreciate the spin? 
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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On this Algerian boxer. Just award him or her the gold now. At least nobody will get hurt.
It was a massive cock up (!?!?!) letting this happen. I don't think this was anything to do with the IOC being worried about offending trans people or being seen to be woke, as much as people will tell you it is.
It's about the IOC being too worried about litigation from the Algerian OC. It's partially at least to do with a massive mistake in setting the entry rules incorrectly.
Just like with the nonce. They could have realised with was happening in the weeks and months before the games, banned the individuals, or the entire nations if their OC's were willing to die on the hill and taken the financial hit when they probably lost in the Court of Arbitration for sport.
Instead they've allowed these two colossal PR fiasco's to take place which are looking like they will dominate the discussion over the quite incredible sport we are witnessing. It's a massive shame
It was a massive cock up (!?!?!) letting this happen. I don't think this was anything to do with the IOC being worried about offending trans people or being seen to be woke, as much as people will tell you it is.
It's about the IOC being too worried about litigation from the Algerian OC. It's partially at least to do with a massive mistake in setting the entry rules incorrectly.
Just like with the nonce. They could have realised with was happening in the weeks and months before the games, banned the individuals, or the entire nations if their OC's were willing to die on the hill and taken the financial hit when they probably lost in the Court of Arbitration for sport.
Instead they've allowed these two colossal PR fiasco's to take place which are looking like they will dominate the discussion over the quite incredible sport we are witnessing. It's a massive shame
PascalGroß Tips
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- Jan 29, 2024
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This is NOT about Trans - it's important to understand that. Some are trying to make it about that - but it isn't.
It's a very complex issue about sexual development. We obviously don't know the confidential medical info for the two boxers in question, but one example is that someone can be born with female sex organs and yet have XY chromosomes.
Some info here... DSD - Differences in sex development
PascalGroß Tips
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- Jan 29, 2024
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And that's the issue here. The two boxers in question have the strength of a man. Totally unacceptable that the IOC are allowing this to happen.
JamesAndTheGiantHead
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My cat, Nigel, cheering Joe on. Big fan
If they all boycotted it the IOC would have to make a call on it
They seem fairly happy to ignore it.
Imane Khelif is a biological woman, who was born a female. This is not a Trans issue.
nwgull
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When it comes to combat sports, nowhere.
Is it fair? I'm not sure
But that way no one gets hurt or worse
Ike and Tina Burner
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highflyer
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Perhaps the more fundamental problem here is the 'sport' of boxing. Where two people actively attempt to inflict physical harm on each other?
Humans are wonderfully varied and complex.
Some are born with certain advantages, some are not. Not freakishly tall? Dont bother dreaming about making it as a basketball player. Want to win at horse dancing? Then you damn well better hope you are lucky enough to be born into a posh and wealthy family, cos otherwise you are going to struggle!
Indeed. Completely moronic sport, straight up barbarian. And obviously all the fighters are idiots (with the odd, odd exception) or they couldn't punch someone who haven't done shit.
Ban the sport and save a couple of hundred, or maybe thousand, brains per year.
Yes, a Trans woman in the boxing would be a completely different kettle of fish and I think nobody could have any serious issues with a ban in that case.
As for the Italian girl, I'm not a boxing expert by any means but having watched the knock out maybe she's just not very good? Leading with the chin feels like a no-no even to someone with only a very vague knowledge of the sport.
KZNSeagull
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Jo Clarke about to go for gold in the Kayaking
Finished 5th
Finished 5th
