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Palace have over achieved and Brighton have disappointed why?



You are jealous of our support pure and simple .

You will have the same elements , you couldn't sell out the away end at withdean but took (10k?) To old Trafford , all clubs have hangers on . You are no different . History shows this .

Your ahead football wise as you have been most of my life but the sniping over our crowds are pure envy .

You and your palace chums online didn't think we would get more than 12 k , then you laughed how after season 1 we would lose a large percent of our support . Same relentless predictions ever since . Now it's not happening you bang on about this plastic argument .

All we have on you is crowds / infrastructure so your best bet is sticking to the football bud .

Otherwise you just make yourself look jealous which ain't a good quality .

Jealous of Bha's attendances with 1000's of kiddies wives and people who leave on 80 mins Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Even if we haven't got the average like your new Amex att, I'd rather stick to not playing you for 13 years then sfuffing you 5-0
Then when you finally turn up in the same division as us we turn you over at the shiny new Amex win 3-1, let you win one 3-0 then turn up again for a match of such high magnitude and beat you in front of 28k+ so the more Jcl's the merrier . I'd take that over higher att any day:rave:
Jealous of Bha :ffsparr::lolol:punish:
Carry on dreaming
 




Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
24,447
Sussex
Jealous of Bha's attendances with 1000's of kiddies wives and people who leave on 80 mins Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Even if we haven't got the average like your new Amex att, I'd rather stick to not playing you for 13 years then sfuffing you 5-0
Then when you finally turn up in the same division as us we turn you over at the shiny new Amex win 3-1, let you win one 3-0 then turn up again for a match of such high magnitude and beat you in front of 28k+ so the more Jcl's the merrier . I'd take that over higher att any day:rave:
Jealous of Bha :ffsparr::lolol:punish:
Carry on dreaming

Totally missed point. When you stick to the football fair enough , you can argue the upper hand.

Its when you get all lemon about our support that you look a tit.

Stick with the football otherwise just discredits you as a bitter green person.

All the best
 


Dec 3, 2012
325
Totally missed point. When you stick to the football fair enough , you can argue the upper hand.

Its when you get all lemon about our support that you look a tit.

Stick with the football otherwise just discredits you as a bitter green person.

All the best

Argue? I think Palace can do a bit more than that!!!

They've had the upper hand for decades and that's a fact I'm afraid.
 


loz

Well-known member
Apr 27, 2009
2,478
W.Sussex
Argue? I think Palace can do a bit more than that!!!

They've had the upper hand for decades and that's a fact I'm afraid.

And until the last 2 seasons the upper hand in attendances for decades as well. I dont know why they are trying to ague. Brighton for many reasons football and non football have for decades been the poor relation of this rivalry, and just when BHA get a brand spaking new stadia which is the envy of the Championship, what do Palace do...trump it by getting themselfs promoted!!
 


dan4bha

New member
Mar 27, 2014
50
Pulis is the difference, they would undoubtedly have finished bottom under Holloway. He has transformed the Palace team defensively, who'd have thought Delaney and Gabbidon would be able to keep clean sheets in the prem. Keeping clean sheets when you are near the bottom of the table is key.

As for us, I feel that Garcia has certainly underachieved with the group of players that he has at his disposal, albeit with a lot of injuries and a turbulent entrance...

I mean we certainly have the Barcelona possession philosophy, but in terms of chance creation we are very limited, we sometimes go full games without creating a single clear cut opportunity. This is certainly the fault of Garcia, partly due to his team selections and partly his tactics.
 




Dougie

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2012
5,812
Why all this back slapping ? The season is isn't over yet :angry:

Correct soggy , there's still a few more twists and turns yet . We don't do it the easy way so Saturdays game could easily trip us up .
 


Feb 14, 2010
4,932
And Dougie, as you are the Palace Major, tell me (apart from Withdean) the stat when in the same division.. the facts speak for themselves, palace got what 13000 to pay last season (plus freebies and away fans) when Brighton had 28000/30000 every week. Its a support that palace did not match, but now you are the self proclaimed "best fans in the land". Palace have been more successful (especially since the mid 80s when the Albion went on the skids) but no, palace dont have a historically bigger support. Brighton's last success was a runner up Cup final in 1983 and a Charity Shield / Champions of England in 1910. Given that history of failure on the pitch, then the support for the Albion is remarkable. Palace however have even in years when the club has been a financial disaster, not slipped below the second tier for 40 years. If you did then what would the palace 13000 be? 3000 to 6000 as in the mid 80s perhaps?
 


Dec 3, 2012
325
And Dougie, as you are the Palace Major, tell me (apart from Withdean) the stat when in the same division.. the facts speak for themselves, palace got what 13000 to pay last season (plus freebies and away fans) when Brighton had 28000/30000 every week. Its a support that palace did not match, but now you are the self proclaimed "best fans in the land". Palace have been more successful (especially since the mid 80s when the Albion went on the skids) but no, palace dont have a historically bigger support. Brighton's last success was a runner up Cup final in 1983 and a Charity Shield / Champions of England in 1910. Given that history of failure on the pitch, then the support for the Albion is remarkable. Palace however have even in years when the club has been a financial disaster, not slipped below the second tier for 40 years. If you did then what would the palace 13000 be? 3000 to 6000 as in the mid 80s perhaps?


Since 1921
Seasons Brighton have had bigger average attendances than Palace - 19
Seasons Palace have had bigger average attendances than Brighton - 67

The games up WCP. The stats tell the story and no amount of spin can change that. Why don't you post about the football instead. Brighton are winning aren't they?
 




Feb 14, 2010
4,932
Since 1921
Seasons Brighton have had bigger average attendances than Palace - 19
Seasons Palace have had bigger average attendances than Brighton - 67

The games up WCP. The stats tell the story and no amount of spin can change that. Why don't you post about the football instead. Brighton are winning aren't they?

No mate, palace have been more successful, that is all. Palace get less than half we do when in the same division.
 




Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
No mate, palace have been more successful, that is all. Palace get less than half we do when in the same division.

Really? Since when did Albion ever get 51,000+ for a game like Palace did in 1978/79 against Burnley? Are you claiming that season Albion's crowd at the Goldstone was double that of Palace?

I know Selhurst's capacity is well down now on then, but on the other hand we have a smaller catchment area, it's easier for football supporters in Croydon and the surounding area to access other teams in London.
 




Dougie

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2012
5,812
And Dougie, as you are the Palace Major, tell me (apart from Withdean) the stat when in the same division.. the facts speak for themselves, palace got what 13000 to pay last season (plus freebies and away fans) when Brighton had 28000/30000 every week. Its a support that palace did not match, but now you are the self proclaimed "best fans in the land". Palace have been more successful (especially since the mid 80s when the Albion went on the skids) but no, palace dont have a historically bigger support. Brighton's last success was a runner up Cup final in 1983 and a Charity Shield / Champions of England in 1910. Given that history of failure on the pitch, then the support for the Albion is remarkable. Palace however have even in years when the club has been a financial disaster, not slipped below the second tier for 40 years. If you did then what would the palace 13000 be? 3000 to 6000 as in the mid 80s perhaps?

Ah the major , I wonder what happened to him ??? Right , regarding your question , I don't give a toss .
 


raba

Member
Jun 9, 2013
129
And Dougie, as you are the Palace Major, tell me (apart from Withdean) the stat when in the same division.. the facts speak for themselves, palace got what 13000 to pay last season (plus freebies and away fans) when Brighton had 28000/30000 every week. Its a support that palace did not match, but now you are the self proclaimed "best fans in the land". Palace have been more successful (especially since the mid 80s when the Albion went on the skids) but no, palace dont have a historically bigger support. Brighton last success was a runner up Cup final in 1983 and a Charity Shield / Champions of England in 1910. Given that history of failure on the pitch, then the support for the Albion is remarkable. Palace however have even in years when the club has been a financial disaster, not slipped below the second tier for 40 years. If you did then what would the palace 13000 be? 3000 to 6000 as in the mid 80s perhaps?
Cor don't you bang on.

Enjoyed a day out to Stamford Bridge recently? You add nothing to Brighton's attendence so why do you go on about it?
 


Really? Since when did Albion ever get 51,000+ for a game like Palace did in 1978/79 against Burnley? Are you claiming that season Albion's crowd at the Goldstone was double that of Palace?

I know Selhurst's capacity is well down now on then, but on the other hand we have a smaller catchment area, it's easier for football supporters in Croydon and the surounding area to access other teams in London.

boosted by a few brighton that night!???
 




WeScored3...

Banned
Nov 19, 2012
79
So it's good management to waste a fortune on a whole squad of new players because you've got no long term plan. Then thrash around desperately trying to find a cheaper alternative to a candidate with proven premier league experience (At one point they were on the brink of taking Iain Dowie back) before finally accepting that your credibility will be shot forever if you do that and go cap in hand to the original candidate after wasting weeks. And then spend even more money in January (wisely this time).

Gosh. Yes. I hope our club can be run as well as that one day.

This is harsh. It's very difficult for a promoted team via the play offs to prepare for a Premier League season. You've never been in the Premier League, so how would you know? Going up via the play offs, you have less time to prepare and buy players...Palace operate on the lowest budget in the PL and therefore it was very hard to attract quality players due to wage cap and the fact you are favourites to get relegated. Of course we bought some real crap, but also some of the players that Holloway brought in have, given time to settle, proved to key players for us this season (Jerome, Mariappa, Bannan). In regards to Steve Parish, he admits he's new to football generally and has had to learn the hard way in the PL which is a brutal stage for promoted teams. Whilst Palace have made mistakes, we've come a long way since going bankcrupt a few years ago and looking at you guys who I believe are under achieving, maybe you need to get your own house in order first before criticising Palace. I just don't think Brighton fans realise just how hard the PL is.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
This is harsh. It's very difficult for a promoted team via the play offs to prepare for a Premier League season. You've never been in the Premier League, so how would you know? Going up via the play offs, you have less time to prepare and buy players...Palace operate on the lowest budget in the PL and therefore it was very hard to attract quality players due to wage cap and the fact you are favourites to get relegated. Of course we bought some real crap, but also some of the players that Holloway brought in have, given time to settle, proved to key players for us this season (Jerome, Mariappa, Bannan). In regards to Steve Parish, he admits he's new to football generally and has had to learn the hard way in the PL which is a brutal stage for promoted teams. Whilst Palace have made mistakes, we've come a long way since going bankcrupt a few years ago and looking at you guys who I believe are under achieving, maybe you need to get your own house in order first before criticising Palace. I just don't think Brighton fans realise just how hard the PL is.

This a multi threaded message board which means different topics of conversation can run along side each other.

It is perfectly possible for some threads to comment on where we need to improve ourselves, at the same time as other threads 'criticise palace'.
 




pauldcpfc

Banned
Feb 16, 2010
551
Surrey

The man is a lunatic.

We played exactly the same team as we played against Chelsea.

They went on about playing attacking football all week and wanting Zaha to score and celebrate against his old club, and then it's meant to be a surprise that they play 5 attacking players and we over-run them?

Even the Cardiff fans think it's ridiculous. Solskjaer talked about keeping tactics quiet yesterday and then promptly named 3 midfielders who would be starting.

Clueless club who should be playing in the Welsh League. At least then, they would have the Welsh FA involved in their matters legally, instead of overturning their suspensions when they were in the Football League.
 




Creaky

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Mar 26, 2013
3,862
Hookwood - Nr Horley
I don't understand why some fans bang on about the size of the support their club gets and that includes our club.

It's not the number of supporters that a club has that defines the success of a club but what the players do on the field.

If a club can be successful with just a few supporters then doesn't that give those supporters the bragging rights over a club with a massive level of support? ???
 




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