[Albion] Our youth players coming through (are we Ajax in disguise)

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Rogero

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Ben White is superb for Leeds so have a look at the Leeds forums. They are afraid that we will call him back in January. Two more players coming through are Haydon Roberts and Ryan Longman. Under Chris H none of this would have happened so the youth suddenly have their chance and are taking it.
 




Bold Seagull

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Amazing to think there was a near meltdown when we decided to give so many of the youngsters a go against Villa.
 


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Ben White is superb for Leeds so have a look at the Leeds forums. They are afraid that we will call him back in January. Two more players coming through are Haydon Roberts and Ryan Longman. Under Chris H none of this would have happened so the youth suddenly have their chance and are taking it.
CH made it very easy to make such sweeping comments.

But, we could just be watching the end result of CH wanting to Hughtonise these 'kids'.

Neither Connolly or Alzate just appeared, they'd spent x months training with the first team squad, waiting to be trusted.

Sure that moment might not have come as quickly, but we ought not deny the fact that CH had been schooling the youngsters last season.
 


Molango's visa

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May I second the gist of this thread and salute our academy and the young starlets it has produced.
I also support the comment above about not getting carried away or demand too much. They are young, still learning and will be inconsistent.

Incidentally it is a good sign of the state of the game that so many top clubs have young players coming through. Chelsea, Man U, City, and yesterday Newcastle are evidence that the future looks good.

This. I was thinking about it yesterday. I wonder whether clubs have been taking note of Southgate's outlook? I remember Rodney Marsh not getting his England debut till he was 29 and already showing signs of the effects of indulgence, perhaps brought on by the embitterment of being repeatedly overlooked. Nobody wants that.
 


el punal

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You’d think buying clubs would want to see more before paying 20 million but you may be right. That says more about modern football than Connollys achievements so far.
If he backs up yesterday over the next few months then indeed, we could name our price.
“The new Rooney” - we can blame you if that catches on

“The new Rooney”? - I’m just hoping he’ll be our new Peter Ward. A lot of similarities too - same build, ability to torment defenders, eye for goal, ability to react quickly to goal scoring situations, has had a successful period in the development squad and we got him for nothing (?).
 




Bold Seagull

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CH made it very easy to make such sweeping comments.

But, we could just be watching the end result of CH wanting to Hughtonise these 'kids'.

Neither Connolly or Alzate just appeared, they'd spent x months training with the first team squad, waiting to be trusted.

Sure that moment might not have come as quickly, but we ought not deny the fact that CH had been schooling the youngsters last season.

Agree, this bouncing of Hughton threads and suggesting they wouldn't have got a chance very disingenuous to me. Even though he was sacked, and looking like the right decision, it's a manager that still left with a positive legacy overall.
 


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I thought it was obvious we were signing loads of good 16, 17, 18 year olds, were investing hugely in their development and they would come through when ready :shrug:

I'm almost certain we could find a post on here by someone blythly dismissing the signing of connolly as 'another one for the black hole of the u23s'. Probably by you :p

Not me, not about Connolly anyway - I don't remember us signing him :) (though obviously we did!). Harper on the other hand ....................................
 


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CH made it very easy to make such sweeping comments.

But, we could just be watching the end result of CH wanting to Hughtonise these 'kids'.

Neither Connolly or Alzate just appeared, they'd spent x months training with the first team squad, waiting to be trusted.

Sure that moment might not have come as quickly, but we ought not deny the fact that CH had been schooling the youngsters last season.

That is definitely true of Connolly. Not so much Alzate - he was out on loan (Swindon) for the first half of last season, and then out injured for most of the rest of it.
 




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Amazing to think there was a near meltdown when we decided to give so many of the youngsters a go against Villa.

Ever heard the expression 'too much of a good thing'? That team against Villa certainly was. Shows that even Potter can get it wrong sometimes.
 


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, look at the posts from summer 2016, which I think was when we signed Connolly, Alzate and White, that were moaning about the recruitment department signing players for the dev squad and not concentrating on splashing the cash on vital 1st team additions.

Connolly - signed summer of 2016, yes.

Alzate - signed a year later, from Leyton Orient, having made 12 first team appearances (at 17)

Ben White, signed at the age of 16, in summer 2014, having been RELEASED by Southampton. Cheers, you mugs.
 


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Amazing to think there was a near meltdown when we decided to give so many of the youngsters a go against Villa.

Literally nobody objected to youngsters being blooded in the Villa match.

It was all about the balance of the team, and the fact that - unlike any other Premier League team in the competition - Potter didn't bother putting any seniors on the bench.

This suggested he didn't want to win the tie. That was the problem.
 




Blue Valkyrie

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Literally nobody objected to youngsters being blooded in the Villa match.

It was all about the balance of the team, and the fact that - unlike any other Premier League team in the competition - Potter didn't bother putting any seniors on the bench.

This suggested he didn't want to win the tie. That was the problem.

It suggested, given the dire injury/illness situation, that he prioritised the team for Chelsea over the team for Villa. Nothing more. Nothing about not wanting to win the tie.
 


Baldseagull

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Ben White is superb for Leeds so have a look at the Leeds forums. They are afraid that we will call him back in January. Two more players coming through are Haydon Roberts and Ryan Longman. Under Chris H none of this would have happened so the youth suddenly have their chance and are taking it.

If Haydon Roberts doesn't make it through, he will somewhere else.
 






nwgull

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Connolly - signed summer of 2016, yes.

Alzate - signed a year later, from Leyton Orient, having made 12 first team appearances (at 17)

Ben White, signed at the age of 16, in summer 2014, having been RELEASED by Southampton. Cheers, you mugs.

I didn’t realise White had been with us since the academy opened. Although I think the signing of a 16 year old defender released by another club would pass under the radar of all but the geekiest of fans, particularly with the excitement of signing Chris O’Grady in the same window.
 






blue-shifted

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There will be plenty of speculation here and in the tabloids about Connolly's transfer value.

Meanwhile, Bloom, Potter etc will be utterly oblivious to it as they absolutely no intention of selling him whatsoever.

Even if we received a ludicrous offer, beyond our wildest dreams even in this ridiculous market, Bloom will quite rightly reason, that offer will probably double in the next 18 months.

We don't have to sell, it makes no sense to sell and we won't sell. That goes for all our starlets
 






el punal

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Connolly - signed summer of 2016, yes.

Alzate - signed a year later, from Leyton Orient, having made 12 first team appearances (at 17)

Ben White, signed at the age of 16, in summer 2014, having been RELEASED by Southampton. Cheers, you mugs.

Just been on the Southampton Echo comments section after their 4-1 stuffing. A lot of Saints fans bemoaning the fact that they haven’t got any decent central defenders. So, as you say, Ben White was on their books and they decided to get rid - probably the sort of player they are now desperate for. Yep, mugs!
 


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