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dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,566
Burgess Hill
Based on my modest betting experiences most weekends, predicting 3 results is hard, so I'm not going to attempt to guess 70........it's in hours hands though, definitely
 




Horton's halftime iceberg

Blooming Marvellous
Jan 9, 2005
16,491
Brighton
The Forest Saturday coincides with my day off.

There's no way I would want to miss the game if it were to become 'winner takes all'.
There's no way I would be 'allowed' to go, without jnr.
There's no way I would take jnr to the game if it were to become 'winner takes all'

Tickets go on sale at the end of March.
Forest had better win or preferably lose all their games between now and then.

This will be a brilliant away day with Jnr. Very easy on the train, get a cheap first class seat (weekend) quick walk from the station (avoiding or including the walk through Hooters car park). Hang around three weeks and catch the Milk Race as well...
 


chucky1973

New member
Nov 3, 2010
8,829
Crawley
I can make you feel better here.

This idea that we are crap against lesser teams was true in 2013, but isn't any more. The last time we failed to put away a lesser team was Charlton on Boxing Day, unless you count a draw against 12th placed Bournemouth on 1st January. Since then, we've beaten Port Vale, Birmingham, Doncaster and Millwall. Admittedly they were all 1-0 victories except Vale, but we have won every single one of them, and won deservedly. And in that time, we've only lost to Watford (we were pony, away), Hull (Premier league club, away) and Wigan (unlucky, but they were in form anyway)

So really, I don't think anyone needs to worry about lesser teams any more.

thank you Simster and I love your confidence, I hope it comes true. My point still stands though that we make hard work of the 'lesser' teams. as you say we won, but all 1-0 and by no means comfortable viewing. We struggle to break them down where as better teams seem to come to play football and we look better against them. In the 3 years to this date and with very few exceptions, we make hard work of those games. We get early goals aka Barnsley (5-0), we tend to go on and win comfortably, the longer nil nil.......the more poorly we play. But whatever the outcome its nice to still have something to play for at this stage of the season again. Rather our position than that great big club Leeds
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
They did attack us, but not from the outset.

They turned up expecting to get dicked, and then after 20 minutes when we had thrown NOTHING at them, they got bored of waiting to withstand a barrage that never came, and grew and grew in confidence.

Entirely self inflicted.

This. One too many times for our management (Jones) to proclaim 'it's gonna be a tough game', and give a very poor side far too much respect. If we had attacked them, we would have won at a canter.
 




Keeping The Dream Alive.

Naming Rights
May 28, 2008
3,059
WSU
thank you Simster and I love your confidence, I hope it comes true. My point still stands though that we make hard work of the 'lesser' teams. as you say we won, but all 1-0 and by no means comfortable viewing. We struggle to break them down where as better teams seem to come to play football and we look better against them. In the 3 years to this date and with very few exceptions, we make hard work of those games. We get early goals aka Barnsley (5-0), we tend to go on and win comfortably, the longer nil nil.......the more poorly we play. But whatever the outcome its nice to still have something to play for at this stage of the season again. Rather our position than that great big club Leeds

To back-up what you've said, our record at home against teams in the bottom half of the table is P8 W4 D3 L1. That puts us 16th in the table. Away from home we've P9 W6 D2 L1. That puts us 3rd in the table.

So I'd say whilst we have improved in recent matches, we do still have difficulty despacthing the shit teams at home.
 


casbom

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2007
2,598
Let's do this properly - what's your predictions for the remaining games?

Forest added :)

Leicester

Blackburn (a) D
Yeovil (h) W
Burnley (a) D
Wigan (a) L
Sheff Wed (h) W
Brighton (h) W
Reading (a) L
QPR (h) D
Bolton (a) W
Huddersfield (a) D
Doncaster (h) W

Burnley

Charlton (a) D
Doncaster (h) W
Leicester (h) D
Watford (a) L
Barnsley (a) W
Middlesbrough (h) D
Blackpool (a) W
Wigan (h) D
Ipswich (h) W
Reading (a) L

Derby

Notts Forest (a) D
Ipswich (a) D
Charlton (h) W
Middlesbrough (a) L
Blackpool (a) W
Huddersfield (h) W
Doncaster (a) W
Barnsley (h) W
Watford (h) D
Leeds (a) D

QPR

Middlesbrough (a) D
Wigan (h) D
Blackpool (h) W
Bournemouth (a) W
Blackburn (a) L
Notts Forest (h) D
Leicester (a) D
Watford (h) D
Millwall (h) W
Barnsley (a) W

Wigan

Watford (h) D
QPR (a) D
Bolton (a) L
Leicester (h) W
Leeds (h) W
Millwall (h) W
Reading (h) D
Burnley (a) D
Blackpool (h) W
Birmingham (a) W
Blackburn (a) L

Reading

Birmingham (a) W
Barnsley (h) W
Huddersfield (h) W
Charlton (a) D
Bournemouth (a) L
Leicester (h) W
Wigan (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) W
Doncaster (a) W
Burnley (h) D

Forest

Derby (a) D
Charlton (h) W
Ipswich (a) L
Millwall (h) W
Sheff Wed (h) W
QPR (a) D
Birmingham (h) W
Leeds (a) L
Bournemouth (a) D
Brighton (h) D

Brighton

Ipswich (h) W
Sheff Wed (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) W
Blackburn (a) L
Barnsley (a) W
Leicester (a) L
Charlton (h) D
Huddersfield (a) D
Blackpool (h) W
Yeovil (h) W
Notts Forest (a) D

Ipswich

Brighton (a) L
Derby (h) D
Notts Forest (h) W
Blackburn (a) D
Huddersfield (a) L
Doncaster (h) W
Watford (a) L
Bournemouth (h) W
Burnley (a) L
Sheff Wed (h) W

So the final projected table is:

Leicester = 99
Burnley = 89

Derby = 82
QPR = 80
Wigan = 77
Reading = 77

Brighton = 75
Forest = 73
Ipswich = 65
 


Rugrat

Well-known member
Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
our run in is relatively easy on paper....but how can you predict anything in this league....??? weds 3-0qpr....wtf...:ohmy:

Based on my modest betting experiences most weekends, predicting 3 results is hard, so I'm not going to attempt to guess 70........it's in hours hands though, definitely

So the final projected table is:

Leicester = 99
Burnley = 89

Derby = 82
QPR = 80
Wigan = 77
Reading = 77

Brighton = 75
Forest = 73
Ipswich = 65

Have been in a prediction betting thing with my mates for 3 years now. If you get more than 55-60% of those correct you can give yourself a pat on the back!!
 




Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
Here's mine....
Leicester (80)

Blackburn (a) D
Yeovil (h) W
Burnley (a) L
Wigan (a) L
Sheff Wed (h) W
Brighton (h) D
Reading (a) D
QPR (h) W
Bolton (a) W
Huddersfield (a) W
Doncaster (h) W
pts = 21 (final total = 101 – 1st)
Burnley (73)

Charlton (a) D
Doncaster (h) W
Leicester (h) W
Watford (a) L
Barnsley (a) L
Middlesbrough (h) D
Blackpool (a) W
Wigan (h) D
Ipswich (h) W
Reading (a) L
pts = 15 (total = 88 - 2nd)
Derby (63)

Notts Forest (a) D
Ipswich (a) D
Charlton (h) W
Middlesbrough (a) L
Blackpool (a) D
Huddersfield (h) W
Doncaster (a) D
Barnsley (h) D
Watford (h) D
Leeds (a) W
Pts= 15 (total = 78 - 4th)

QPR (63)

Middlesbrough (a) L
Wigan (h) L
Blackpool (h) W
Bournemouth (a) D
Blackburn (a) D
Notts Forest (h) W
Leicester (a) L
Watford (h) W
Millwall (h) W
Barnsley (a) L
Pts = 14 (total = 77 - 5th)

Wigan (59)

Watford (h) W
QPR (a) W
Bolton (a) W
Leicester (h) W
Leeds (h) W
Millwall (h) D
Reading (h) D
Burnley (a) D
Blackpool (h) W
Birmingham (a) W
Blackburn (a) W
Pts = 27 (total = 86 – 3rd)

Forest (57)

Derby (a) D
Charlton (h) D
Ipswich (a) L
Millwall (h) D
Sheff Wed (h) W
QPR (a) L
Birmingham (h) W
Leeds (a) D
Bournemouth (a) L
Brighton (h) D
Pts = 11 (total = 68)

Reading (56)

Birmingham (a) W
Barnsley (h) D
Huddersfield (h) W
Charlton (a) L
Bournemouth (a) L
Leicester (h) D
Wigan (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) D
Doncaster (a) L
Burnley (h) W
Pts = 13 (total = 69)

Brighton (56)

Ipswich (h) W
Sheff Wed (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) W
Blackburn (a) D
Barnsley (a) L
Leicester (a) D
Charlton (h) D
Huddersfield (a) W
Blackpool (h) W
Yeovil (h) W
Notts Forest (a) D
pts = 20 (total = 76 – 6th)

Ipswich (51)

Brighton (a) L
Derby (h) D
Notts Forest (h) W
Blackburn (a) L
Huddersfield (a) D
Doncaster (h) W
Watford (a) L
Bournemouth (h) D
Burnley (a)L
Sheff Wed (h) W
Pts = 12 (total = 63)
 


Peter Grummit

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2004
6,772
Lewes
Have been in a prediction betting thing with my mates for 3 years now. If you get more than 55-60% of those correct you can give yourself a pat on the back!!

Precisely. With 10 games + left there are too many permutations.

As things stand, we are 'ahead' of our immediate rivals for 6th, due to our game in hand. All we can do (and worry about) is winning the next game. If we don't then we look to see how our rivals do. One step at a time.

PG
 






Mutts Nuts

New member
Oct 30, 2011
4,918
Who of the contenders has, on paper at least, the hardest run in this season?

I don't imagine for one minute anybody has an 'easier' one that us.
What with only 1 guaranteed top 6 team in our last 11 games.

Yes I know:-

1 chicken, 2 chickens, 3 chickens ...

But I imagine every other top 8 team would swap their Easter programme for Hudderfield, Blackpool followed by Yeovil, having begun with Charlton.
With only 1 decent Striker in our squad we have the hardest run in as you put it
 


Keeping The Dream Alive.

Naming Rights
May 28, 2008
3,059
WSU
Doesn't stop me doing it :smile:

I dont know if it would interest you, but I'd love to see how much money you'd be up/down if you backed each result you've picked for the season as a £5 single. Would take a fair bit of time doing it with every team, maybe if you just did it for our games it wouldn't be so time consuming. Would be fascinating to see the results!
 
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Stat Brother

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
With only 1 decent Striker in our squad we have the hardest run in as you put it
Surely that would only be the case if only 1 player was allowed to score.

In every game we have 11 players who are able to play goal attack**, and 9 of those need to step up (8 if Will gets another brace very soon)


**Goal Attack (GA)
The Goal Attack's primary role is scoring and setting up goals.
They can play in the centre third, the attacking third and the goal circle but NOT the defensive third.
The Goal Attack's main duty is to feed the Goal Shooter so they can fire the ball into the net close to the post.
But if the defenders are marking the Goal Shooter then the Goal Attack will often have a shot from nearer the edge of the goal circle.
The Goal Attack must have both strong passing and shooting skills.
 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,776
Fiveways
Conversely, very few teams have out-classed us at home, but Barnsley were comfortably the better side at the Amex this season, in a true Championship style head scratcher of a game.

The best teams, in my view, were Forest, Wigan and QPR. I could perhaps add Reading, when we went down to ten. Against all of these teams, we played well. This is not an accusation we could level at us against Barnsley.
 


lancyclaret

New member
Jan 10, 2014
566
Here's mine....
Leicester (80)

Blackburn (a) D
Yeovil (h) W
Burnley (a) L
Wigan (a) L
Sheff Wed (h) W
Brighton (h) D
Reading (a) D
QPR (h) W
Bolton (a) W
Huddersfield (a) W
Doncaster (h) W
pts = 21 (final total = 101 – 1st)
Burnley (73)

Charlton (a) D
Doncaster (h) W
Leicester (h) W
Watford (a) L
Barnsley (a) L
Middlesbrough (h) D
Blackpool (a) W
Wigan (h) D
Ipswich (h) W
Reading (a) L
pts = 15 (total = 88 - 2nd)
Derby (63)

Notts Forest (a) D
Ipswich (a) D
Charlton (h) W
Middlesbrough (a) L
Blackpool (a) D
Huddersfield (h) W
Doncaster (a) D
Barnsley (h) D
Watford (h) D
Leeds (a) W
Pts= 15 (total = 78 - 4th)

QPR (63)

Middlesbrough (a) L
Wigan (h) L
Blackpool (h) W
Bournemouth (a) D
Blackburn (a) D
Notts Forest (h) W
Leicester (a) L
Watford (h) W
Millwall (h) W
Barnsley (a) L
Pts = 14 (total = 77 - 5th)

Wigan (59)

Watford (h) W
QPR (a) W
Bolton (a) W
Leicester (h) W
Leeds (h) W
Millwall (h) D
Reading (h) D
Burnley (a) D
Blackpool (h) W
Birmingham (a) W
Blackburn (a) W
Pts = 27 (total = 86 – 3rd)

Forest (57)

Derby (a) D
Charlton (h) D
Ipswich (a) L
Millwall (h) D
Sheff Wed (h) W
QPR (a) L
Birmingham (h) W
Leeds (a) D
Bournemouth (a) L
Brighton (h) D
Pts = 11 (total = 68)

Reading (56)

Birmingham (a) W
Barnsley (h) D
Huddersfield (h) W
Charlton (a) L
Bournemouth (a) L
Leicester (h) D
Wigan (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) D
Doncaster (a) L
Burnley (h) W
Pts = 13 (total = 69)

Brighton (56)

Ipswich (h) W
Sheff Wed (a) D
Middlesbrough (h) W
Blackburn (a) D
Barnsley (a) L
Leicester (a) D
Charlton (h) D
Huddersfield (a) W
Blackpool (h) W
Yeovil (h) W
Notts Forest (a) D
pts = 20 (total = 76 – 6th)

Ipswich (51)

Brighton (a) L
Derby (h) D
Notts Forest (h) W
Blackburn (a) L
Huddersfield (a) D
Doncaster (h) W
Watford (a) L
Bournemouth (h) D
Burnley (a)L
Sheff Wed (h) W
Pts = 12 (total = 63)


Looking at that, you've Barnsley making a late bid for the play-offs - UNBEATEN against all the automatic and play-off contenders?
 


chucky1973

New member
Nov 3, 2010
8,829
Crawley
I can make you feel better here.

This idea that we are crap against lesser teams was true in 2013, but isn't any more. The last time we failed to put away a lesser team was Charlton on Boxing Day, unless you count a draw against 12th placed Bournemouth on 1st January. Since then, we've beaten Port Vale, Birmingham, Doncaster and Millwall. Admittedly they were all 1-0 victories except Vale, but we have won every single one of them, and won deservedly. And in that time, we've only lost to Watford (we were pony, away), Hull (Premier league club, away) and Wigan (unlucky, but they were in form anyway)



So really, I don't think anyone needs to worry about lesser teams any more.

So back my point, since this thread, we have lost 2 at home and not scored a goal.
 






Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
The run in starts now...

Can we get 12 points from Charlton, Huddersfield, Blackpool and Yeovil ? ???
 


Pintos

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2005
564
Oxted
Looking at everybody's final 5 games, it would appear to be a shoot-out between us and Bournemouth for 6th spot.
Never works out how you might think though, last night being a case in point.
 


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