Only the captain should talk to the ref

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Watching the Brazil/chile game and it's striking how many of the players have decided they are within their rights to shout at the ref. they wag their fingers, wave imaginary cards and dispute every decision. Both sides are at it. All sides do it (even the Albion). Surely it's time for this to stop. Even the managers in this game are screaming from the touch line.

FIFA won't do anything (too busy hiding their loot) so what if Sami did something unilaterally. If he tells our skipper that he is the only Albion player who can talk to the ref. all the others just shut the flip up. If we feel there is a genuine concern, the skipper speaks to the ref. no histrionics, no pantomime, no play acting. We take a stand. We wouldn't need a new FA rule or FIFA changing the game. Just some decency and self-control from our team and manager.

I'd be interested to hear how a ref would respond if a team behaved like that. Surely they would be well inclined towards a team that behaved with a modicum of decency. Just musing.

 

[Return of the Rev]

Watching the Brazil/chile game and it's striking how many of the players have decided they are within their rights to shout at the ref. they wag their fingers, wave imaginary cards and dispute every decision. Both sides are at it. All sides do it (even the Albion). Surely it's time for this to stop. Even the managers in this game are screaming from the touch line.

FIFA won't do anything (too busy hiding their loot) so what if Sami did something unilaterally. If he tells our skipper that he is the only Albion player who can talk to the ref. all the others just shut the flip up. If we feel there is a genuine concern, the skipper speaks to the ref. no histrionics, no pantomime, no play acting. We take a stand. We wouldn't need a new FA rule or FIFA changing the game. Just some decency and self-control from our team and manager.

I'd be interested to hear how a ref would respond if a team behaved like that. Surely they would be well inclined towards a team that behaved with a modicum of decency. Just musing.

this 100%

 

[Motogull]

Watching the Brazil/chile game and it's striking how many of the players have decided they are within their rights to shout at the ref. they wag their fingers, wave imaginary cards and dispute every decision. Both sides are at it. All sides do it (even the Albion). Surely it's time for this to stop. Even the managers in this game are screaming from the touch line.

FIFA won't do anything (too busy hiding their loot) so what if Sami did something unilaterally. If he tells our skipper that he is the only Albion player who can talk to the ref. all the others just shut the flip up. If we feel there is a genuine concern, the skipper speaks to the ref. no histrionics, no pantomime, no play acting. We take a stand. We wouldn't need a new FA rule or FIFA changing the game. Just some decency and self-control from our team and manager.

I'd be interested to hear how a ref would respond if a team behaved like that. Surely they would be well inclined towards a team that behaved with a modicum of decency. Just musing.

You can't tell me this didn't occur to you in the Roy Keane Man U days?

Agree fully.

 

[Cappers]

Watching the

I'd be interested to hear how a ref would respond if a team behaved like that. Surely they would be well inclined towards a team that behaved with a modicum of decency. Just musing.

Totally agree, but it would be the same for both sides so ref would not 'inclined'

 

[Goring-by-Seagull]

Totally agree, but it would be the same for both sides so ref would not 'inclined'

I think he means if we did it off our own back rather than have an FA rule in place

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Totally agree, but it would be the same for both sides so ref would not 'inclined'

Well ideally all teams would do it. But on the face of it, refs appear to be influenced by the shouting from players (or else why would they do it). If we changed the behaviour unilaterally, perhaps refs would swing the other way and favour us?

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

Forgive me if I am wrong but I believe this already is a rule (possibly just FA but pretty sure FIFA said something about it one or two world cups ago) alas, as with obstruction it appears to be largely ignored

 

[Gazwag]

Well ideally all teams would do it. But on the face of it, refs appear to be influenced by the shouting from players (or else why would they do it). If we changed the behaviour unilaterally, perhaps refs would swing the other way and favour us?

Greer v Reading proves we would be the soft touch if we tried to do this without the rules being changed

 

[crookie]

Agree with the OP and I'd like to see any player waving an imaginary card to be booked themselves, that would cut down this odious practice

 

[Eeyore]

Rugby Union has a ruling that allows only the captain to talk to the ref, and query decisions. It should be applied in football too.

 

[Ernest]

What a load of crap, win fairly if you can, win by any means including berating the ref if you can't

 

[BensGrandad]

What a load of crap, win fairly if you can, win by any means including berating the ref if you can't

The truthful answer nobody wants good losers. The onus is on the ref to be firm and deal with anyone who steps out of line.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

The truthful answer nobody wants good losers. The onus is on the ref to be firm and deal with anyone who steps out of line.

You're assuming that by not shouting at the ref a team will inevitably lose. What I am wondering is would the ref respond well to that to the benefit of the team behaving decently? I don't accept that not shouting at the ref inevitably means defeat. You can still be hard but just not berate the ref.

 

[BensGrandad]

I can see and hear nothing that convinces me that the rules are not in place already it is up to the refs to implement them. If you can 'get at the ref' and influence his decisions so be it, it is all up to him.

 

[paul wickens]

I can see and hear nothing that convinces me that the rules are not in place already it is up to the refs to implement them. If you can 'get at the ref' and influence his decisions so be it, it is all up to him.

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing in the laws in Football to this effect. Surely a sin bin (10 minutes) and a yellow card for any gob shite would reduce this problem in a few weeks? I'd also include 'brandishing' cards as a yellow card offence.

 

[BensGrandad]

Does not ungentlemanly conduct cover it if the ref believes it is incesant and without justification.