readingstockport
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The BT claim is disputed by some but I thought most accepted that it was invented by a Brit.
BT invented hyperlinks shock | The Register
BT invented hyperlinks shock | The Register
Only in America, #94: Four year-old girl shoots herself - with Grandmother's gun
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bhaexpress
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Yes and oops ! I should have said ARPAnet.
Stumpy Tim
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Hate to agree with FRANK, but he's right. I did this in a project at Uni 10 years ago
bhaexpress
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Yes well, I was acutally using it a lot longer ago than that. It's fair to say that the bulk of the development was done by educational organisation though.
Incidentally the Unix operation system which was the basis for DOS and then Windows was originally created by the Xerox Corperation. However once again the bulk of what happened with Unix was also developed by the same sort of people.
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bhaexpress
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are you sure, I think it was bell Labs (AT&T)
My apologies, you are quite correct, I was actually thinking about Ethernet !
clapham_gull
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AT&T I think, the basis for the Apple Mac with it mouse and icons, what's called the "direct manipulation metaphor" in UI design, was a Xerox invention.
Juan Albion
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You think that's bad?
Juan Albion
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Typical Christmas in the Mid-West. . .
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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not really sure of the relevence of the historical links bewteen educational institutions and the internet as those that where involved where the top tier universities and colleges, not the highschools which it was suggested provide a poor education. bit like saying education is all fine in this country because so many redbrick graduates go in to city jobs.
however, to be pedantic...
Unix was delevoped within Bell/AT&T for contolling the phone switching systems. DOS is based on CP/M which is in turn based on VMS which was the minicomputer system of choice in the 70's and predates widepread use of Unix type systems. Xerox created the GUI and the mouse which Apple depolyed commercially and MS copied. Await further correction/detail from MYOB.
however, to be pedantic...
Unix was delevoped within Bell/AT&T for contolling the phone switching systems. DOS is based on CP/M which is in turn based on VMS which was the minicomputer system of choice in the 70's and predates widepread use of Unix type systems. Xerox created the GUI and the mouse which Apple depolyed commercially and MS copied. Await further correction/detail from MYOB.
bhaexpress
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VMS was the 80s and limited to the now long forgottem DEC. The operating systems for DEC minis in the 70s was either RSTS or RSX, I know because I used them as an operator (and very crap they were too). Unix was used initially for the Intenet mainly because it provided a poweful operating system with a fraction of the overhead that all mainframe systems had, for example, on an IBM 3083 your CPU would spend about 75% of it's cycles crunching IBM code before it got to your programs. ICL computers just tended to crunch which is why you don't see them now (bought by Fujitsu). DEC failed (having been bought up by Compaq) because of their abysmal support. Unisys (formerly Burroughs and Speery Univac) are still around in limited numbers but I do mean limited. There were a host of other maunfacturers around such as Prime, Honeywell and Harris to name but a few but they all used different architecture and an application program for say a Unisys machine would not run on an IBM machine (we're talking mainframes and minis here BTW).
The alleged beauty of Unix was that in theory the same program would run on Sun Unix as would AIX or HP Unix, not strickly true but far closer than the computers of yore.
Oh yes, I have worked on most of them at one time or another. Incidentally before micro computers arrived there was no such thing as a spreadsheet and wordprocessing was done on a glorified typewriter.
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Tom Bombadil
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Being a gimp you'd have no problem Looney.
London Calling
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what's right with Gun ownership?
looney
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- Jul 7, 2003
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The ability to defend yourself, property and loved ones from attack.
A counterbalance to a tyranical state.
A deterent to the two reasons above which has a wealth of statistical backing.
For use in sport and hunting.
readingstockport
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Nope, but I am self-confident enough that I don't need a gun to 'defend' myself. And face it, most yanks morons don't have guns so they can 'defend' themselves but so they can pretend they are frontier men by going out to the countryside once a year and blowing the f*** out of small animals. It makes them feel as if their pathetic lives have some value.
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you'd fit right in with the sad fuckers.
Here we f***ing go! Come on looney, give us one of your lame arsed irrelevant "sauces" that back up your "wealth of statistical backing" bullshit.
"A counterbalance to a tyranical state"
You couldn't make it up!sten_super
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The problem with your first point is of course that while it gives you a chance to defend yourself, it also gives you a much, much higher chance of being attacked BY someone with a firearm.
And wtf do you mean by a counterbalance to a tyranical state? You planning on some Steven Seagal-style mission to expose the government by killing them all?
I'd like to see the statistics that back up that stuff as well, if you don't mind.
readingstockport
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I love the way once I log on the ignore function kicks in and loonys f***ing insanity dissapears.