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[Technology] One for the IT Security Geeks



nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,532
Manchester
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Had a call from a new employee yesterday saying he was just responding to my email. I hadn't sent him an email, but he'd received a phishing email from an account with my name on it but a different domain name, which is why he thought a call was appropriate rather than responding to the email. This in itself didn't concern me as we often get these types of emails to addresses that have been harvested over the years and the staff are fairly savvy when it comes to responding to odd looking addresses or clicking on links. What does however concern me is that this guy is new to the company and his email account didn't even exist until just over a week ago, so his address has been harvested in a matter of days! Does this indicate a security breach somewhere, or is this possible?

Thanks in advance for all help.
 




Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,524
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Interesting way to endear yourself to those you are asking for help. :lolol:

Reminds me of the bloke who once asked me if he could ask about his home computer before he asked an expert.
 


RandyWanger

Je suis rôti de boeuf
Mar 14, 2013
6,708
Done a Frexit, now in London
I do have a beard, but I have never watched star wars ???

Has this employee updated their linkedin to say they work for you? It can be as easy as that and most companies will use first.lastname@ format. Pretty easy to guess. Bots trawling the internet can easily pick this info up.
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,053
I do have a beard, but I have never watched star wars ???

Has this employee updated their linkedin to say they work for you? It can be as easy as that and most companies will use first.lastname@ format. Pretty easy to guess. Bots trawling the internet can easily pick this info up.

I was going to suggest the LinkedIn thing.

It's shockingly easy to do.
 


usernamed

New member
Aug 31, 2017
763
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Had a call from a new employee yesterday saying he was just responding to my email. I hadn't sent him an email, but he'd received a phishing email from an account with my name on it but a different domain name, which is why he thought a call was appropriate rather than responding to the email. This in itself didn't concern me as we often get these types of emails to addresses that have been harvested over the years and the staff are fairly savvy when it comes to responding to odd looking addresses or clicking on links. What does however concern me is that this guy is new to the company and his email account didn't even exist until just over a week ago, so his address has been harvested in a matter of days! Does this indicate a security breach somewhere, or is this possible?

Thanks in advance for all help.

While it’s possible that something is harvesting email addresses from within the organisation, it’s far more likely that your new lad has just entered his new business email address onto LinkedIn (now owned by Facebook) without his privacy controls being well set up, and Facebook have immediately sold it on to absolutely everyone for absolutely any purpose.

Edit: I see I’m far from the first to suggest LinkedIn!
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Had a call from a new employee yesterday saying he was just responding to my email. I hadn't sent him an email, but he'd received a phishing email from an account with my name on it but a different domain name, which is why he thought a call was appropriate rather than responding to the email. This in itself didn't concern me as we often get these types of emails to addresses that have been harvested over the years and the staff are fairly savvy when it comes to responding to odd looking addresses or clicking on links. What does however concern me is that this guy is new to the company and his email account didn't even exist until just over a week ago, so his address has been harvested in a matter of days! Does this indicate a security breach somewhere, or is this possible?

Thanks in advance for all help.

If he's been sent an email from what purports to be you then it's more to do with your email address being out in the 'wild' than his. It shows the importance of training people in recognising phishing. No security breach just as long as he didn't respond ( which by the sounds of it he didn't ) and just deleted the email. Always worth previewing an email before opening properly so that the scammer don't know it's been opened.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,532
Manchester
I do have a beard, but I have never watched star wars ???

Has this employee updated their linkedin to say they work for you? It can be as easy as that and most companies will use first.lastname@ format. Pretty easy to guess. Bots trawling the internet can easily pick this info up.

Wow, what a fantastically quick and well-informed response in general to my query! I obviously don't mean bearded star-wars t-shirt wearing geeks in a pejorative sense - geeks run the world these days and our club is bankrolled by a maths geek.

The employee in question has indeed already updated his Linkedin account, so I reckon this is the source of the email address and this post is probably the winner, which is actually reassuring.

Thanks to all that responded .
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Had a call from a new employee yesterday saying he was just responding to my email. I hadn't sent him an email, but he'd received a phishing email from an account with my name on it but a different domain name, which is why he thought a call was appropriate rather than responding to the email. This in itself didn't concern me as we often get these types of emails to addresses that have been harvested over the years and the staff are fairly savvy when it comes to responding to odd looking addresses or clicking on links. What does however concern me is that this guy is new to the company and his email account didn't even exist until just over a week ago, so his address has been harvested in a matter of days! Does this indicate a security breach somewhere, or is this possible?

Thanks in advance for all help.

Don’t forget the balding head and skinny pony-tail.
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,779
GOSBTS
While it’s possible that something is harvesting email addresses from within the organisation, it’s far more likely that your new lad has just entered his new business email address onto LinkedIn (now owned by Facebook) without his privacy controls being well set up, and Facebook have immediately sold it on to absolutely everyone for absolutely any purpose.

Edit: I see I’m far from the first to suggest LinkedIn!

Linkedin has been and is still owned by Microsoft since 2016
 




usernamed

New member
Aug 31, 2017
763
Linkedin has been and is still owned by Microsoft since 2016

How bizarre, I was 100% certain it was one of the businesses Facebook had snapped up when it went on its social media acquisition spree. I was wrong, and stand corrected.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,532
Manchester
Don’t forget the balding head and skinny pony-tail.

If I was after a record producer or someone to manage my band, then that's who I'll be after. For IT, I'd be suspicious of the expertise of someone without a beard and cavalier attitude to personal hygiene.
 




AmexRuislip

Retired Spy 🕵️‍♂️
Feb 2, 2014
34,746
Ruislip
One to for the bearded, star wars t-shirt wearing brigade of NSC from someone with mediocre IT understanding:

Had a call from a new employee yesterday saying he was just responding to my email. I hadn't sent him an email, but he'd received a phishing email from an account with my name on it but a different domain name, which is why he thought a call was appropriate rather than responding to the email. This in itself didn't concern me as we often get these types of emails to addresses that have been harvested over the years and the staff are fairly savvy when it comes to responding to odd looking addresses or clicking on links. What does however concern me is that this guy is new to the company and his email account didn't even exist until just over a week ago, so his address has been harvested in a matter of days! Does this indicate a security breach somewhere, or is this possible?

Thanks in advance for all help.

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swd40

Active member
Mar 22, 2006
281
If he's been sent an email from what purports to be you then it's more to do with your email address being out in the 'wild' than his. It shows the importance of training people in recognising phishing. No security breach just as long as he didn't respond ( which by the sounds of it he didn't ) and just deleted the email. Always worth previewing an email before opening properly so that the scammer don't know it's been opened.

This ^.

Smells more likely someone new to your org has just got their first bit of spam from your compromised email address. Not their fault at all.

Don't use work email address, when signing up for those mucky websites i would say.
 


Gabbafella

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2012
4,905
I was going to help, but then you insulted my Star Wars t-shirt.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
If I was after a record producer or someone to manage my band, then that's who I'll be after. For IT, I'd be suspicious of the expertise of someone without a beard and cavalier attitude to personal hygiene.

And don’t forget the nervousness and sweating when dealing with a female colleague.
 






studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
Don't forget Jennifer Arcuri is your go to person for computer training (Highly recommended by Mr Johnson, London)
 


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