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[Other Sport] One for the England rugby fans- Jones In or Out?

Jones In or Out


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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Out out out for me. He has taken us backwards this season and today’s performance is one embarrassment too far. 3 defeats in the Six Nations, all totally deserved. We are now shitehouse and totally mullered, outplayed and outthought today by a manager sacked by England

Get the Aussie OUT,
 




maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
13,361
Zabbar- Malta
Out out out for me. He has taken us backwards this season and today’s performance is one embarrassment too far. 3 defeats in the Six Nations, all totally deserved. We are now shitehouse and totally mullered, outplayed and outthought today by a manager sacked by England

Get the Aussie OUT,

This. Has failed to get any sort of plan B in the side. Today at half time the pundits said England needed to stop box kicking, stop giving away penalties.
Within minutes, we did both.

Ireland were so much better all over the pitch and England's constant gifting penalties away is pathetic.

There is no hope of winning the world cup playing like this.
 


The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
10,106
Things need freshening up and we need to sort out 2, 8, 9, 10, 12- desperately predicable and turgid by the decision makers so often.
Out.
 




warsaw

She's lost control
Jan 28, 2008
911
Short of ideas, sloppy, stale, giving away penalties one after the other, going through the motions, going backwards. We have world class players who look too comfortable
now. why is that? Time for a change
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
25,929
Why would we sack one of the best coaches in the world ?

England are having a bad season in an unusual time.

So what ? It happens.

Even after all these years the blind philosophy of instant gratification through the imaginary silver bullet just won't go away.

*sighs*
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Why would we sack one of the best coaches in the world ?

England are having a bad season in an unusual time.

So what ? It happens.

Even after all these years the blind philosophy of instant gratification through the imaginary silver bullet just won't go away.

*sighs*

We have been gash and I mean properly gash in virtually every game since the WC Final. Against France is the only really good game imo.

Hardly knee jerk to want a change with how far we’ve fallen short with very talented players.

A new coach will need two years, let’s do it

I am a patient bugger, I haven’t wavered from Potter In because I can see progress. I only see us going backwards under Jones
 
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rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
4,988
OUT - forget not turning up in the WC final and being pretty crap ever since, not picking Marcus Smith should see him sacked
 




Lethargic

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Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
Out, we are an undisciplined rabble going backwards crazy with the large pool of talent available.

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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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I see we have at least one pisstaking IN ....from a Welsh fan ��
 


Eeyore

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We have been gash and I mean properly gash in virtually every game since the WC Final. Against France is the only really good game imo.

Hardly knee jerk to want a change with how far we’ve fallen short with very talented players.

A new coach will need two years, let’s do it

I am a patient bugger, I haven’t wavered from Potter In because I can see progress. I only see us going backwards under Jones

They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.

We’ll have to agree to differ, shadow of the team that beat New Zealand and not at all convincing in wins against teams in transition.

The kicking this Six Nations has been mostly moronic and repeat. The flair is non existent

We’ll see what happens but I really hope we thank Jones and get rid of him
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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We’ll have to agree to differ, shadow of the team that beat New Zealand and not at all convincing in wins against teams in transition.

The kicking this Six Nations has been mostly moronic and repeat. The flair is non existent

We’ll see what happens but I really hope we thank Jones and get rid of him

No surprise given the polarised and haphazard nature of rugby since the pandemic struck.

The Sarries players are especially rusty.
 


Lethargic

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Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
They only lost once in 2020, a narrow defeat to France after a bad first half, in a Six Nations winning year.

They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

They've had a bad Six Nations, losing away at Wales and Ireland and a poor defeat against Scotland.

One bad tournament. It's knee jerk.
But it been the same since he took over show potential play well one year then go backwards the following year and repeat

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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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No surprise given the polarised and haphazard nature of rugby since the pandemic struck.

The Sarries players are especially rusty.

Except why is it just us that have gone backwards? France, Ireland (for the most part) and Wales all appear to be coping OK. Scotland have been a little naive/unlucky since they beat England but you can see the improvement. I see NONE from England :shrug:
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,830
Uffern
They won the Autumn International tournament, winning all three matches.

That's a bit misleading: the Wales team was missing several key players and the French team was virtually a second team

Jones can seemingly do nothing about England's appalling disciplinary record, no team is going to win when they concede 14 penalties in a match.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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But it been the same since he took over show potential play well one year then go backwards the following year and repeat

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Like most teams apart from New Zealand then. Rugby is always a fast changing sport with personnel revolving.

I'd say three 6 nations and RWC final is a good return. Haven't had a return like that since Woodward.

England have only manged a three in five three times in the last 50 years.

#Perspective
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Except why is it just us that have gone backwards? France, Ireland (for the most part) and Wales all appear to be coping OK. Scotland have been a little naive/unlucky since they beat England but you can see the improvement. I see NONE from England :shrug:

Every coach has a bad season if they are around long term. That's my main point.

Jones has an excellent track record. He needs to turn things around. That's all.
 


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