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Old Shoreham road closure



TotallyFreaked

Active member
Jul 2, 2011
324
It does seem to be going slowly. I regularly cycle along the old Shoreham Road as work takes me between Brighton and Portslade. I can understand their thinking (and backed by a consultation) to encourage safe cycling especially amongst Children where most car drivers would often speed up to 40 mph even on the 30mph stretch. The problem is that the area that are most dangerous to cycle along such as the Sackville Road junction are just to difficult and expensive to implement a solution. The first time I rode along the cycle lane between the drive and the upper drive two cars has pulled up on the cycle lane causing me to have to join traffic to the now single lane and become more of a hazard than i would have been before.

What I do agree with is the decrease in speed from 40mph to 30mph near Hove cemetery to Trafalgar road junction, a cheap and simple solution that previously felt very unsafe to cycle along with many cars driving well in excess of the speed limit.

I am not sure a safe and meaningful cycle network is possible in Brighton due to both cost and current road provision. To me a reduction in general speed of traffic and where all road users respect each other is a much better solution to our transport problems.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
I'm a cyclist and car driver. I used Grand Avenue lanes, but really think they ruined that road.

Ideally, I would scrap all bordered cycle lanes, but can drivers be trusted not to park in them?

I'm also uneasy with a set budget for cycling and spending the money on whatever takes their fancy to use up the budget.
 




brightn'ove

cringe
Apr 12, 2011
9,169
London
personally i wish they did it when i went to Bhasvic, and worked off london road, i cycled along that road every single day and sometimes it was a f***ing death trap. There are 3 schools and a college along that road, it was definitely necessary.

still though, i was back for 5 weeks and regularly played football at the playing field and not on one single occasion did i see any work going on at all.
 
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Sergei's Celebration

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2010
3,650
I've come back home.
It has ruined Grand Avenue, true, but I reckon most of it was ruined by the invention of the car (or massive increase in car ownership) and architects of post-war.

What on earth do you mean?

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Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
I've said this before - They could have put a cycle lane through Hove Park the Rec, through a few residential streets then the schools up to Bhsvic

I reckon you could run it across Brighton & hove through residential streets very cheaply and end up with a much safer system than what we have now.

Its all a con to make motorists the scapegoats so they can screw more money from us all.
 


CP 0 3 BHA

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
2,258
Northants
You do wonder why it takes so long for roadworks to get done in this country, as far as I can work out the typical routine is:

Cone people arrive and close the road
-- 2 week gap --
Diggers arrive to dig up the road
-- 2 week gap --
Workmen arrive to actually do stuff
-- 2 week gap --
Tarmac arrives to fill in the holes
-- 2 week gap --
Cone people come back and re-open the road
-- 6 week gap --
Lines get painted

This is of course prudent and accepted scheduling so as to ensure there are no workstream hold-ups (two lots of people having to stand around) due to any previous phase over-running due to sickness, holidays or general can't-be-arsed-ness.

The only thing you've forgotten is the Heath and Safety and Risk assessments required to be completed between each phase and signed off before the next can start.

The fact that thousands of hours are wasted each day by people queing is not considered a relevant factor.
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
Britain will be like China was, with everyone on bicycles. In China everyone will drive cars, like we used to.

Pass the Chow Mein please
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,643
It has ruined Grand Avenue, true, but I reckon most of it was ruined by the invention of the car (or massive increase in car ownership) and architects of post-war.

I wasn't alive for any of that so speaking from a personal point of view. They are an abomination
 


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