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ForestRowSeagull

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2011
976
Now Brixton
From my limited experience of using a dreadmill, it can be easier, purely because of the reasons you mention. But, to me at least, it is SO DULL, that I end up cutting runs short because I can't be arsed with it. Plus the monotony of being in the same spot (even though you can obvs change speed, elevation, etc), bounce, noise and pretty much everything else about them means I never go near the damn things these days!

Yes that is very true, it is very very dull. I have taken to putting some tape over the distance and time displays so I dont just stand there watching it tick up. It's certainly not an option for long runs but when I only have 20 mins before work or whatever it seems to be ok.
 




CoolTed

Member
Nov 2, 2015
52
Question: how much easier is running on the treadmill vs running outside?

During the heatwave I got used to running in the gym in my block of flats as it had aircon and I quite enjoyed it given you can pretty much set the pace and just run with it. However I dont want to lull myself into a false sense of security.

I've seen a 1% incline as a suggestion to account for lack of headwind and road resistance.
During a bad winter I spent a lot of time on a treadmill and I noticed a gradual change in my stride pattern/foot plant etc. I think my body learnt that the longer both my feet were off the belt, the easier it was!
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,107
[MENTION=1606]BlueWhite[/MENTION]&Sea moves up. I jump 2 places and [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] knocks nearly a minute of his SB.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
GNT 20:30 20:20 83.33% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Artie Fufkin 18:12 16:55 77.29% 35:47 1:15:58 2:42:07
jimmygull18:4418:4476.25%40:46 4:04:32
Bad Ash18:2118:2175.89%37:43 1:35:003:39:23
Knocky 21:3217:45 75.77% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Blue&WhiteSea 18:07 17:05 75.67% 36:22 1:00:09 1:20:40 2:55:02
Soistes 22:28 21:51 75.37% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
CoolTed17:1875.27%36:1059:55 1:20:39 3:01:52
Simgull 20:51 20:21 73.7%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
St Leonard's 18:21 18:2173.30% 1:34:35
Curious Orange 20:11 18:36 70.77% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
ForestRow18:2318:2370.17% 1:22:20 3:00:18
Bob! 24:22 22:41 67.6% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
Greg Bobkin 22:09 20:54 63.51% 46:57 1:18:01 1:39:00 3:57:37
Notters 22:1322:13 60.54%
Perrys Trackie Botoms % 1:46:37 4:34:24
Big Nuts 18:00 38:10 1:05:38 1:24:23 3:10:23
Badger18:0537:41 1:22:572:56:33
HerrTubthumper19:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Ben Eltons Bro20:3343:03 1:32:31 3:28:03
Anchorman 21:34 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:45.30 4:00:06
snowflake%44:16 1:14:03
Ninja Elephant 17:37 % 37:33 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:10:49
Fitzcarraldo 19:33 %
Mr Banana 19:28 %
P's Harmonica 20:10 % 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Mr Blobby23:05% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:13:22
CompleteBadger 19:37% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
chaileyjem24:45%54:47 1:54:30
DFreemansPerm28:46
Biffy Boy 19.55%41:31 1:33:17 3:18:39
Dazzer 19.57 % 1:36 3:43:
seagull-si21.29% 1:43:42
lostinlondon 22:00 % 44.13
Nathan22:36%46:58 1:44:54 4:06:25
sjamesb346622:58%47:141:21:12 1:48:49
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42
 
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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,022
[MENTION=1606]BlueWhite[/MENTION]&Sea moves up. I jump 2 places and [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] knocks nearly a minute of his SB.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
GNT 20:30 20:20 83.33% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Artie Fufkin 18:12 16:55 77.29% 35:47 1:15:58 2:42:07
Bad Ash18:2118:2175.89%37:43 1:35:003:39:23
Knocky 21:3217:45 75.77% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Blue&WhiteSea 18:07 17:05 75.67% 36:22 1:00:09 1:20:40 2:55:02
CoolTed17:1875.27%36:1059:55 1:20:39 3:01:52
Soistes 22:35 21:51 74.98% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
Simgull 20:51 20:21 73.7%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
St Leonard's 18:21 18:2173.30% 1:34:35
Curious Orange 20:11 18:36 70.77% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
ForestRow18:2318:2370.17% 1:22:20 3:00:18
Bob! 24:22 22:41 67.6% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
Greg Bobkin 22:09 20:54 63.51% 46:57 1:18:01 1:39:00 3:57:37
Notters 22:1322:13 60.54%
Perrys Trackie Botoms % 1:46:37 4:34:24
Big Nuts 18:00 38:10 1:05:38 1:24:23 3:10:23
Badger18:0537:41 1:22:572:56:33
HerrTubthumper19:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Ben Eltons Bro20:3343:03 1:32:31 3:28:03
Anchorman 21:34 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:45.30 4:00:06
snowflake%44:16 1:14:03
Ninja Elephant 17:37 % 37:33 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:10:49
Fitzcarraldo 19:33 %
Mr Banana 19:28 %
P's Harmonica 20:10 % 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Mr Blobby23:05% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:13:22
CompleteBadger 19:37% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
chaileyjem24:45%54:47 1:54:30
DFreemansPerm28:46
Biffy Boy 19.55%41:31 1:33:17 3:18:39
Dazzer 19.57 % 1:36 3:43:
jimmygull20:5049:19 4:04:32
seagull-si21.29% 1:43:42
lostinlondon 22:00 % 44.13
Nathan22:36%46:58 1:44:54 4:06:25
sjamesb346622:58%47:141:21:12 1:48:49
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42

Thanks Gaffer!
 






jimmygull

Active member
Mar 22, 2012
162
Hi Knocky been meaning to give you a couple of updates. Been upping the ante this year! 18:44 at hove prom park run and 40:46 at the Phoenix 10k
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,107
Hi Knocky been meaning to give you a couple of updates. Been upping the ante this year! 18:44 at hove prom park run and 40:46 at the Phoenix 10k

Well done [MENTION=24077]jimmygull[/MENTION]. Incredible improvement. I've edited the table above and you are now 3rd (bit of detective work by myself to get your AG). The gap between us, at 0.5%, will be my target for August!
 




jimmygull

Active member
Mar 22, 2012
162
Well done [MENTION=24077]jimmygull[/MENTION]. Incredible improvement. I've edited the table above and you are now 3rd (bit of detective work by myself to get your AG). The gap between us, at 0.5%, will be my target for August!

Thanks Knocky and Bad Ash. Yes, pretty pleased with progress, started the year with an aim of getting Sub 20 at 5k! Combo of regular Park Runs, Run Club and less booze has kept me improving. Although, I definitely seem to have peaked at 5k, scratching away at the odd second now and matched my PB at Hove Prom week before last!
 


soistes

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2012
2,651
Brighton
[MENTION=1606]BlueWhite[/MENTION]&Sea moves up. I jump 2 places and [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] knocks nearly a minute of his SB.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
GNT 20:30 20:20 83.33% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Artie Fufkin 18:12 16:55 77.29% 35:47 1:15:58 2:42:07
jimmygull18:4418:4476.25%40:46 4:04:32
Bad Ash18:2118:2175.89%37:43 1:35:003:39:23
Knocky 21:3217:45 75.77% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Blue&WhiteSea 18:07 17:05 75.67% 36:22 1:00:09 1:20:40 2:55:02
CoolTed17:1875.27%36:1059:55 1:20:39 3:01:52
Soistes 22:35 21:51 74.98% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
Simgull 20:51 20:21 73.7%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
St Leonard's 18:21 18:2173.30% 1:34:35
Curious Orange 20:11 18:36 70.77% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
ForestRow18:2318:2370.17% 1:22:20 3:00:18
Bob! 24:22 22:41 67.6% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
Greg Bobkin 22:09 20:54 63.51% 46:57 1:18:01 1:39:00 3:57:37
Notters 22:1322:13 60.54%
Perrys Trackie Botoms % 1:46:37 4:34:24
Big Nuts 18:00 38:10 1:05:38 1:24:23 3:10:23
Badger18:0537:41 1:22:572:56:33
HerrTubthumper19:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Ben Eltons Bro20:3343:03 1:32:31 3:28:03
Anchorman 21:34 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:45.30 4:00:06
snowflake%44:16 1:14:03
Ninja Elephant 17:37 % 37:33 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:10:49
Fitzcarraldo 19:33 %
Mr Banana 19:28 %
P's Harmonica 20:10 % 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Mr Blobby23:05% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:13:22
CompleteBadger 19:37% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
chaileyjem24:45%54:47 1:54:30
DFreemansPerm28:46
Biffy Boy 19.55%41:31 1:33:17 3:18:39
Dazzer 19.57 % 1:36 3:43:
seagull-si21.29% 1:43:42
lostinlondon 22:00 % 44.13
Nathan22:36%46:58 1:44:54 4:06:25
sjamesb346622:58%47:141:21:12 1:48:49
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42

I seem to have slipped a place for some reason in this latest version. My current SB is 22:28 and 75.37%, from Preston Park on 25 June :thumbsup:
 


ForestRowSeagull

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2011
976
Now Brixton
From my limited experience of using a dreadmill, it can be easier, purely because of the reasons you mention. But, to me at least, it is SO DULL, that I end up cutting runs short because I can't be arsed with it. Plus the monotony of being in the same spot (even though you can obvs change speed, elevation, etc), bounce, noise and pretty much everything else about them means I never go near the damn things these days!

I did 25k on the treadmill last night. Boy that was dull. The aircon was handy though!
 






knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,107
I seem to have slipped a place for some reason in this latest version. My current SB is 22:28 and 75.37%, from Preston Park on 25 June :thumbsup:

Edited you in table above. Well spotted, I'd not written that page number in my diary.
There are 5 of us on 75%. I will endeavour to join the 76%.
 






knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,107
Update. Having whinged about missing selection for the England very old gits 10k team by 1 second, it appears I was wrong. They select on gun time and thus I have been selected ( Chester 10k, 2023).

🇬🇧 or 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿?
Either way NSC are honoured to have an International at the top of their table. Gritted teeth....
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,022
Update. Having whinged about missing selection for the England very old gits 10k team by 1 second, it appears I was wrong. They select on gun time and thus I have been selected ( Chester 10k, 2023).

Amazing! :bowdown:
 




Anchorman

Active member
Oct 19, 2007
153
Update. Having whinged about missing selection for the England very old gits 10k team by 1 second, it appears I was wrong. They select on gun time and thus I have been selected ( Chester 10k, 2023).

What a relief! I’ve been reading this thread for years feeling like a proper slow Old Git and it turns out I’m benchmarking myself against England Internationals!
 








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