Official Running Thread

[knocky1]

Looking good weather in Lewes for Sunday [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] wind chill -2, snow flurries, 20mph Easterly head winds, 30mph gusts. Perfect conditions just like the training months. Vest and shorts?

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/u1012jpx4#?date=2018-03-18

03:00 06:00 09:00 12:00 15:00 18:00 21:00
Clear night Light snow shower Light snow Light snow Light rain Sleet shower

Feels like temperature -2c to -5c

 

[dazzer6666]

Looking good weather in Lewes for Sunday [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] wind chill -2, snow flurries, 20mph Easterly head winds, 30mph gusts. Perfect conditions just like the training months. Vest and shorts?

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/u1012jpx4#?date=2018-03-18

03:00 06:00 09:00 12:00 15:00 18:00 21:00
Clear night Light snow shower Light snow Light snow Light rain Sleet shower

Feels like temperature -2c to -5c

Will be lovely on top of Castle Hill and Mount Caburn in that

 

[Badger]

Best Strava trace EVER [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

https://www.strava.com/activities/1448023551

Southend Pier marathon. After a week of managing tendinitis and glute issues, will happily take a time of about 4.12, include being battered by [MENTION=12697]Steve Foster[/MENTION] who is a machine at the moment in his 100 in 100 quest.

First marathon ever on the pier apparently. Wasn’t as dull as it sounds and the time clicked by OK. Another creative thinking masterpiece by the loons at Sussex Trail Events.

That's brilliant, fair play for actually finishing it, I'm definitely in the "it would drive me insane" group. I love how you managed 1,362ft of elevation. I would have assumed it was completely flat.

I'm really pleased with my long run yesterday. 29.8km (18.5miles) in 2.24.40. Did the first 20k on my own at a fairly fast pace and then slowed it down for the final 10k running with a group. They call themselves RunTOBeer, the running part isn't taken too seriously.

Sunday nights and Monday mornings are turning into a blur of tiredness now the really long runs have started.

 

[dazzer6666]

That's brilliant, fair play for actually finishing it, I'm definitely in the "it would drive me insane" group. I love how you managed 1,362ft of elevation. I would have assumed it was completely flat.

I'm really pleased with my long run yesterday. 29.8km (18.5miles) in 2.24.40. Did the first 20k on my own at a fairly fast pace and then slowed it down for the final 10k running with a group. They call themselves RunTOBeer, the running part isn't taken too seriously.

Sunday nights and Monday mornings are turning into a blur of tiredness now the really long runs have started.

Cracking running.......

There was a nasty little rise up towards the land end of the pier where the turnaround point was (seemed to get worse every lap !), but it wasn't 100ft or more...........more like 10-15ft maybe.......the rest was pancake-flat - must be taking the tide falling into account as we got higher and higher above sea level I guess

 

[Badger]

Cracking running.......

There was a nasty little rise up towards the land end of the pier where the turnaround point was (seemed to get worse every lap !), but it wasn't 100ft or more...........more like 10-15ft maybe.......the rest was pancake-flat - must be taking the tide falling into account as we got higher and higher above sea level I guess

Either that or you were really bouncing up and down as you ran.

 

[dazzer6666]

Either that or you were really bouncing up and down as you ran.

Parts of me probably were...........need to lose a few pounds

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Looking good weather in Lewes for Sunday [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] wind chill -2, snow flurries, 20mph Easterly head winds, 30mph gusts. Perfect conditions just like the training months. Vest and shorts?

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/u1012jpx4#?date=2018-03-18

03:00 06:00 09:00 12:00 15:00 18:00 21:00
Clear night Light snow shower Light snow Light snow Light rain Sleet shower

Feels like temperature -2c to -5c

Looking forward to it. All about the layers!

 

[Guinness Boy]

That's probably all down to the pacer and his 'encouragement' during the last km

It was excellent encouragement! Marshals must have been properly impressed

 

[Curious Orange]

Updated for my own personal glory

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Artie Fufkin	18:41	18:40	73.06%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:20	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:46	18:23	68.92%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Blue&WhiteSea	18:53	17:05	%	36:53	1:00:09	1:22:39
Curious Orange	18:59	18:36	72.96%	38:31		1:24:23.9
Deletebeepbeep	19:21	19:21	67.79%			1:28:52	3:23:01
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Seaford by the Sea	20:02	20:02	69.72%	46:53	1:29:21
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:30:58
Penny's Harmonica	20:47	20:10	70.97%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Knocky	20:59	17:45	75.14%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Dazzer	21:09	19.57	70.29%			1:36	3:43:
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:03	20:20	74.68%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Anchorman	22:51	21:34	69.00%
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:43:57
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:48:59	4:28:36
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50	01:23:27	1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

 

[knocky1]

As there were two NSC witnesses to [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] getting 24:59 on Saturday I have entered his time. It was a good effort and he'll do better next run anyway.

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Artie Fufkin	18:41	18:40	73.06%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:20	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:46	18:23	68.92%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Blue&WhiteSea	18:53	17:05	%	36:53	1:00:09	1:22:39
Curious Orange	18:59	18:36	72.96%	38:31		1:24:23.9
Deletebeepbeep	19:21	19:21	67.79%			1:28:52	3:23:01
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Seaford by the Sea	20:02	20:02	69.72%	46:53	1:29:21
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:30:58
Penny's Harmonica	20:47	20:10	70.97%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Knocky	20:59	17:45	75.14%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Dazzer	21:09	19.57	70.29%			1:36	3:43:
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:03	20:20	74.68%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Anchorman	22:51	21:34	69.00%
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:43:57
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:48:59	4:28:36
Guinness Boy	24:59	22:04	%	46:50	01:23:27	1:46:03	4:00:06
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

 

[jimhigham]

Feeling properly fed up as have been laid up in bed three days with Manthrax. Marathon training for the Brighton event well and truly scuppered this week. Instead of getting in 35 miles a week it's likely to be none, as I don't want to risk getting out there too soon and doing further damage.

It's only my second marathon. Has anybody else been laid up around five weeks out from the big day and if so, what sort of dent did it put in your preparations? I'm fortunate in that time isn't really a factor. It's more a case of getting around. I should still be able to get a 20 miler under my belt before the taper kicks in but I'm now about two weeks behind where I wanted to be. Does muscle memory win out in the end?

 

[Seaford by the sea]

Have pulled out of the Hastings half on Sunday, physio warned against running with inflamed Achilles. Gutted.

Might console myself by volunteering for the Moyleman marshalling (free beer and pizza)

 

[big nuts]

Have pulled out of the Hastings half on Sunday, physio warned against running with inflamed Achilles. Gutted.

Might console myself by volunteering for the Moyleman marshalling (free beer and pizza)

Sorry to hear that. As a fellow Achilles sufferer myself at the moment, did your physio give you any advice around rehab?

I’m due to see mine Saturday morning for a diagnosis and treatment but anything from your experience that has helped would be appreciated.

 

[dazzer6666]

Feeling properly fed up as have been laid up in bed three days with Manthrax. Marathon training for the Brighton event well and truly scuppered this week. Instead of getting in 35 miles a week it's likely to be none, as I don't want to risk getting out there too soon and doing further damage.

It's only my second marathon. Has anybody else been laid up around five weeks out from the big day and if so, what sort of dent did it put in your preparations? I'm fortunate in that time isn't really a factor. It's more a case of getting around. I should still be able to get a 20 miler under my belt before the taper kicks in but I'm now about two weeks behind where I wanted to be. Does muscle memory win out in the end?

One week won’t make any material difference, it really won’t. Don’t worry about it. Far more important to recover fully before you deplete your body with a lot more running. If you’re desperate to do a 20 you can do it 2 weeks before, but if you only get to say 17/18 that’ll do if you’re not too bothered about a time.

 

[knocky1]

Feeling properly fed up as have been laid up in bed three days with Manthrax. Marathon training for the Brighton event well and truly scuppered this week. Instead of getting in 35 miles a week it's likely to be none, as I don't want to risk getting out there too soon and doing further damage.

It's only my second marathon. Has anybody else been laid up around five weeks out from the big day and if so, what sort of dent did it put in your preparations? I'm fortunate in that time isn't really a factor. It's more a case of getting around. I should still be able to get a 20 miler under my belt before the taper kicks in but I'm now about two weeks behind where I wanted to be. Does muscle memory win out in the end?

You may have to be prepared to drop any target time you have. You'll get round. It's disappointing but nothing can be done about it.

I've been moping around for 2 weeks with muscle aches, stomach and headaches but luckily it's in the taper weeks for Sunday's Moyleman. Just thinking I'll be back to full health on the day, focused on giving it my best and thinking back to how easy running was 2 weeks ago. Looking forward to having my first pint in 68 days, if [MENTION=12396]Seaford by the sea[/MENTION] hasn't drunk it all.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Feeling properly fed up as have been laid up in bed three days with Manthrax. Marathon training for the Brighton event well and truly scuppered this week. Instead of getting in 35 miles a week it's likely to be none, as I don't want to risk getting out there too soon and doing further damage.

It's only my second marathon. Has anybody else been laid up around five weeks out from the big day and if so, what sort of dent did it put in your preparations? I'm fortunate in that time isn't really a factor. It's more a case of getting around. I should still be able to get a 20 miler under my belt before the taper kicks in but I'm now about two weeks behind where I wanted to be. Does muscle memory win out in the end?

Before my 5th marathon, Brighton 2016, I wasn't able to run for weeks beforehand, until I got 2 weeks out. I ran 7 miles on a saturday, that was it for the week. The next week I ran 3.6 miles on the monday, 3.4 miles on the friday and then 17.1 miles on the saturday. I then ran 2.9 miles on the tuesday before the marathon on the sunday.

It can be done, it doesn't mean it's TO be done! But there's no reason why you can't go in without too much preparation. I ran 3:59:27 - over to you!

My hip/groin injury is causing me many problems, I'm going to be stuck inside this week and it looks more and more likely that my charge for 2:blahblah will be postponed for another course this year. I'm not giving up hope and on the day, whatever happens, I'll be going for it. But I have other options in mind as well.

 

[jimhigham]

Thanks chaps. All good to hear. Time really isn’t the thing. I’ve only got a rhino encumbered 6:08:43 to beat.

 

[Seaford by the sea]

Sorry to hear that. As a fellow Achilles sufferer myself at the moment, did your physio give you any advice around rehab?

I’m due to see mine Saturday morning for a diagnosis and treatment but anything from your experience that has helped would be appreciated.

Good luck with the Achilles, initial treatment usual rice, use anti inflammatories,

in terms of exercises build the strength in the Achilles up by standing by window sill, place fingers on sill to help with balance, lift uninjured leg off floor and bend at knee, so all weight on bad Achilles and very slowly raise heel off ground and very slowly lower again. 6 repetitions, a few times a day, everyday. pain should be no more than 3 on scale 1-10 otherwise stop.Then add more weight in later weeks by holding dumbbell or books. If you bounce on the one foot doing the exercise and there is pain, don’t run.
I think if the exercise is too painful, you can do something to put less strain on Achilles. But my situation was milder than that. He thinks caused by the recent interval session, new shoes and strain of the track round the bends on my left leg, too much at once basically
He checked over my heel / ankle movement which is very poor on the affected leg , which will be worked on next time, and will look at hip alignment when running as well, Hope that helps.

Thought he was quite good as alternative to Jesus. Based at lewes racket sports centre in cockshut road (snigger). Dan Nichols, he,s flying off next week to Physio for team England at the commonwealth games, so that says something I think £42.

 

[knocky1]

Strava question for the running/cyclists. Uploaded 34m round trip to Seaford yesterday and although a seperate activity the mileage is added to the weekly Strava activity mileage graph. This ****s up the running graph which I check to make sure I'm steadily increasing mileage and having rest weeks (dropping distance 10-20% every 4 weeks or so).

Is there a way round this? If not I'll have to upload cycling sessions and physically write them in a training plan before deleting them.
Searching google it seems this is a Strava flaw.