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[Hugo Rune]

Maupay and Welbeck can already get 10 goals a season each. We can't play all 3, so what you're effectively saying is that you're happy to spend £20m to get a like for like replacement on two players we already have.

Welbeck will be lucky to start half our EPL games this season with his injury record. If Maupay is then finishing similar to what he did last season, we’re in a bit of bother without some competition that is not Connolly, Zeqiri, Locadia or Andone.

We almost spent £20m on Gonzalez, they’ll be other players on this list, Edouard is probably a candidate.

 

[b.w.2.]

From BBC report on Celtic's match last night, it sounds like he'll fit right in with us

"And, just as in the first leg when Edouard passed up a one-on-one, they were punished for their profligacy."

His head is already through the exit door


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[b.w.2.]

Welbeck will be lucky to start half our EPL games this season with his injury record. If Maupay is then finishing similar to what he did last season, we’re in a bit of bother without some competition that is not Connolly, Zeqiri, Locadia or Andone.

We almost spent £20m on Gonzalez, they’ll be other players on this list, Edouard is probably a candidate.

100% this.


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[macbeth]

Maupay and Welbeck can already get 10 goals a season each. We can't play all 3, so what you're effectively saying is that you're happy to spend £20m to get a like for like replacement on two players we already have.

Welbeck has never hit 10 league goals in his career. Love the guy, but sorry, no. If we're going with what we have again, it'll be a long season.

 

[vagabond]

Maybe nobody, but is he any better than what we have? There's no point in spending for the sake of it. The problem for me was the dismal return from midfield players. Lallana 1, Ally Mac 1, Gross 3 (all penalties), Bissouma 1, Moder 0, March 2, Alzate 1.

I don’t think it is spending for the sake of it. We have limited striking options. I don’t see how this can be disputed.

We’re not going to get a Suarez, Ings or a Giroud type. We couldn’t even get a next tier down with Gonzalez or Nunez. So unless we strike gold with another Welbeck (and there not many of his calibur around) our market is youth, potential and players who are unproven in an elite league.

At this level £18m is peanuts these days. As others mentioned we paid £20m for Championship Webster.

 

[vagabond]

Completely this. Astonishes me people don’t understand this. The only way we head this queue is by paying a fee. If he goes on a free the wage offers he will get will blow us out the water. As for the fee, here’s a selection of comparisons of what strikers of a similar age have cost in the last few years. We’ll be making a punt, as all these clubs did. Hopefully we do better than most of these, but it shows it ain’t easy. But we can’t never buy a striker again because we messed up with Locadia!
- Haller £45M
- Fabio Silva £36M
- Watkins £30M
- Moise Kean £25
- Brewster £23M
- Wesley £22M
- Maupay £20M
- Guido Carrillo £20M
- Janssen £19M
- Solanke £19M
- McBurnie £17M

[emoji106]

Exactly. Locadia was a flop. It happens. To all clubs. We can’t not ever take a punt on a striker again. And yeah some here don’t accept the going rate for players at elite level. Someone comparing us taking a punt for £4m on Duff. I mean… That was a loooong time ago and we were in the Championship then.

Honestly £18m for Edu is a fair deal given his age and ceiling. If he underperforms but we get a couple of years service we can still sell him on for a reasonable amount.

But if he really performs at PL level it’ll be a win-win and we may even be able to sell him on for profit.

 

[Icy Gull]

[emoji106]

Exactly. Locadia was a flop. It happens. To all clubs. We can’t not ever take a punt on a striker again. And yeah some here don’t accept the going rate for players at elite level. Someone comparing us taking a punt for £4m on Duff. I mean… That was a loooong time ago and we were in the Championship then.

Honestly £18m for Edu is a fair deal given his age and ceiling. If he underperforms but we get a couple of years service we can still sell him on for a reasonable amount.

But if he really performs at PL level it’ll be a win-win and we may even be able to sell him on for profit.

Without Locadia's goals we could have been relegated and we certainly wouldn't have made an FA Cup semi Final. He was a flop but his few goals certainly helped us. Take the positives

 

[Danny Wilson Said]

Without Locadia's goals we could have been relegated and we certainly wouldn't have made an FA Cup semi Final. He was a flop but his few goals certainly helped us. Take the positives

Saying this seems insane even to me, but very occasionally there did seem to be a player in there somewhere. That goal at Millwall was unbelievably good, and although his goals against Swansea, Everton and Arsenal were tap-ins to some extent, they were the sort of tap-ins that we've all seen Maupay and Connolly miss.

Okay, his attitude is all wrong and his failure to do anything in the USA is probably the clincher, but is there even a 10 percent chance he could be a reclamation project?

 

[dazzer6666]

saying this seems insane even to me, but very occasionally there did seem to be a player in there somewhere. That goal at millwall was unbelievably good, and although his goals against swansea, everton and arsenal were tap-ins to some extent, they were the sort of tap-ins that we've all seen maupay and connolly miss.

agreed

okay, his attitude is all wrong and his failure to do anything in the usa is probably the clincher, but is there even a 10 percent chance he could be a reclamation project?

no

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Saying this seems insane even to me, but very occasionally there did seem to be a player in there somewhere. That goal at Millwall was unbelievably good, and although his goals against Swansea, Everton and Arsenal were tap-ins to some extent, they were the sort of tap-ins that we've all seen Maupay and Connolly miss.

Okay, his attitude is all wrong and his failure to do anything in the USA is probably the clincher, but is there even a 10 percent chance he could be a reclamation project?

I don't think so, not least as he doesn't appear to be in training, but the previous poster is right. He was a poor value signing, but far from the worst we've ever had.

£13m for a PL striker represents a very hopeful punt and they will fail to come off more often that they do.

 

[dazzer6666]

I don't think so, not least as he doesn't appear to be in training, but the previous poster is right. He was a poor value signing, but far from the worst we've ever had.

£13m for a PL striker represents a very hopeful punt and they will fail to come off more often that they do.

I wonder how many of those constantly slagging off the recruitment team for the duds have had to build teams of people in their chosen occupations and got it right 100% of the time ? It simply doesn't happen. You can do all the research, tests and interviews in the World, and still might end up with a waster. **** knows I have a few times (and so have some of my old bosses )

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I wonder how many of those constantly slagging off the recruitment team for the duds have had to build teams of people in their chosen occupations and got it right 100% of the time ? It simply doesn't happen. You can do all the research, tests and interviews in the World, and still might end up with a waster. **** knows I have a few times (and so have some of my old bosses [emoji38]ol:[emoji38]ol

The recruitment team will be mercilessly slagged off if we sign Edouard and he fails.

Despite the absolute clamour for his signature on this thread.

Lol.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Watching him last night, he seemed to like to drop deep, much in the way Harry Kane likes to do. But with our squad so packed with number 10s, do we need another?

I've seen this from a Scottish journalist.

“He can play as a lone striker but he was at his best when playing as a '10' alongside Leigh Griffiths. There's an argument he's a better supporting striker than he is as the main forward but he is also adept at leading the line with two wingers either side of him."


These stats from 2020 also back this up.



Although I have my doubts about him, I do like the prospect of having a pacey 6'2" lump up top.

 

[Washie]

I think people are basing 20m on our very low standards. 20m is not a lot in terms of strikers. Joelinton cost 40m

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[dazzer6666]

The recruitment team will be mercilessly slagged off if we sign Edouard and he fails.

Despite the absolute clamour for his signature on this thread.

Lol.

.........and they'll be equally slagged off if we don't sign him (by people who have no actual idea at all of the rationale behind the decision)

 

[Doc Lynam]

Did we get the Derry Pele from Celtic?

 

[Icy Gull]

Saying this seems insane even to me, but very occasionally there did seem to be a player in there somewhere. That goal at Millwall was unbelievably good, and although his goals against Swansea, Everton and Arsenal were tap-ins to some extent, they were the sort of tap-ins that we've all seen Maupay and Connolly miss.

Okay, his attitude is all wrong and his failure to do anything in the USA is probably the clincher, but is there even a 10 percent chance he could be a reclamation project?

I liked him - to howls of derision on here! There IS a player in there but he’s one of many Dutch players over the years with a serious attitude problem it seems. Can’t see a comeback here personally.

You don’t make it in the modern day PL without “fire in the belly”, he hasn’t got it.

Didn’t we have another highly rated player, at the level we were at, a few years ago who chucked football in to be a DJ or suchlike?

 

[Hugo Rune]

I don't think so, not least as he doesn't appear to be in training, but the previous poster is right. He was a poor value signing, but far from the worst we've ever had.

£13m for a PL striker represents a very hopeful punt and they will fail to come off more often that they do.

I don’t think he was as bad as some people make out. There was a great assist for Izquierdo vs Palace but these things get forgotten because we lost.

With his salary, it’s going to be very very hard to loan him out after his US failure. People need to come to terms with the fact that he may well be in the 1st team squad next season.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

People need to come to terms with the fact that he may well be in the 1st team squad next season.

Very much doubt that. He will not be named in the squad.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

I think people are basing 20m on our very low standards. 20m is not a lot in terms of strikers. Joelinton cost 40m

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Having said that, just about everybody in the world not called Mike Ashley thought spending that much on Joelinton was utterly bonkers, before it happened.