Obesity

[Beach Hut]

Amazing, on the news a child who is 2 is considered obese already

Are we really turning our children into total lard arses these days ?

Discuss

 

[Bry Nylon]

Amazing, on the news a child who is 2 is considered obese already

Are we really turning our children into toal lard arses these days ?

Discuss

Did you see his fat mum being interviewed, too...

 

[Beach Hut]

Did you see his fat mum being interviewed, too...

Yes, so why isn't she classed as obese then and social services put her in care ?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

There was an article on the BBC website - An 18 month year old girl weighed 3 stone and had been piling on the pounds from 6 months onwards. It was only when she was two and a bit that the parents decided to act and controlled what she was eating... Certainly over 6 months after the problem came to head.

Great parenting

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Yes, so why isn't she classed as obese then and social services put her in care ?

Because being classed as obese wouldnt mean that she is sent into care?

Obesity isnt considered as neglect - unfortunately

 

[Beach Hut]

So I suppose you could re-open the debate about if pissed and enter a pub the barman could refuse if obese and enter McDonalds you are served food ?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

So I suppose you could re-open the debate about if pissed and enter a pub the barman could refuse if obese and enter McDonalds you are served food ?

I think it should be addressed - overeating is as damaging for your health as drinking is, so maybe that could happen, but i'm afraid theres probably something in the Human Rights Act about refusing people food!!!

Froma student nurse perspective, obesity is so problematic when treating a patient. For one patient, we've had to get a plus size bed, as well as a plus size comode and hoist. Doing so much as washing him is so difficult, and the risk of bed sores is immense.

 

[Beach Hut]

I think it should be addressed - overeating is as damaging for your health as drinking is, so maybe that could happen, but i'm afraid theres probably something in the Human Rights Act about refusing people food!!!

Froma student nurse perspective, obesity is so problematic when treating a patient. For one patient, we've had to get a plus size bed, as well as a plus size comode and hoist. Doing so much as washing him is so difficult, and the risk of bed sores is immense.

So do these plus sized items need to be specifically ordered in ?

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Isn't it strange that anorexics are considered to have a medical problem that they are pitied for, and helped with, but people with obesity problems are just labelled lard-arses who should sort themselves out?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

So do these plus sized items need to be specifically ordered in ?

For the hospital they do, we only have 1 plus size wheelchair, but the porters reckon theyre going to have to get more for patients.

 

[Beach Hut]

Isn't it strange that anorexics are considered to have a medical problem that they are pitied for, and helped with, but people with obesity problems are just labelled lard-arses who should sort themselves out?

But there are medical options for obesity and diets ?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Isn't it strange that anorexics are considered to have a medical problem that they are pitied for, and helped with, but people with obesity problems are just labelled lard-arses who should sort themselves out?

Indeed. I think definitely has something to do with the fact that clinically obese people are seen as greedy, but really it is an addiction or comfort, as per alcohol, cigarrettes and so on.

A local lad died recently - he was over 40 stone due to suffering from Prada (Sure that is not the spelling!) Willis Syndrome and spent £10k on food a year. Not sure how as he didn't work and I don't think his mother did either. Very sad case.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

But there are medical options for obesity and diets ?

There are medical and pyschological approaches and reason to both extremes, ranging from synapse problems to body dysmorphia problems. The anorexic extreme tends to evoke more sympathy than the obesity extreme, yet both cause extensive traumatic damage to internal organs. When was the last time a TV programme recommended tying down an anorexic and force feeding them cream cakes - yet they can recommend compulsory removal of children from families, operations and jaw wiring? Size zero, anyone?

 

[Beach Hut]

So what about parents who chose the easy option of McDonalds or Turkey Twizzers etc - surely there needs to be some responsbility here ?

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

So what about parents who chose the easy option of McDonalds or Turkey Twizzers etc - surely there needs to be some responsbility here ?

Yep - but these are convenience foods in a convenience society. Why go to the effort and cost of making a meal when Ronald will serve up one to go? If society is geared around "now", then people will take the easy option. Health education should be promoted, as should sport in schools - and none of this "gently gently if you can't do it" shite - make them sweat it out. Some of my children can't even complete a bloody warm up without whining that they have damaged themselves. And because I can't take the risk of doing them real damage, they get to sit on the sidelines (or not, because the option now is to go and work with Mrs B, who is a real cow!) Sport should be compulsory, and it should be real, aerobic sport, not this "kick rounders" bollocks where only three children in 40 actually do any bloody work!


I want to introduce martial arts to Key Stage 2, but they won't let me. Just wait until I'm a Headmaster....

 

[Barrel of Fun]

So what about parents who chose the easy option of McDonalds or Turkey Twizzers etc - surely there needs to be some responsbility here ?

AbsolutelyWe, as a nation are always complaining about a police state, which does have its benefits, when you get ignorant parents feeding their kids with crap every meal. The women that turned up at the school that Jamie Oliver has 'taken over', taking orders for chips, bacon butties and so on, had me fuming. Disgraceful scenes and they are despicable excuses for human beings.

 

[Grendel]

A local lad died recently - he was over 40 stone due to suffering from Prada (Sure that is not the spelling!) Willis Syndrome and spent £10k on food a year. Not sure how as he didn't work and I don't think his mother did either. Very sad case.

I remember when he was first on the news a few years ago. The reporter stated that this guy had lost weight since he'd been on a diet and started excercising. Who would have thought it, eh?

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

AbsolutelyWe, as a nation are always complaining about a police state, which does have its benefits, when you get ignorant parents feeding their kids with crap every meal. The women that turned up at the school that Jamie Oliver has 'taken over', taking orders for chips, bacon butties and so on, had me fuming. Disgraceful scenes and they are despicable excuses for human beings.

Was that more to do with getting their faces on telly or with pandering to their kids' dietary "requirements"?

If it hadn't been a television programme, they would have simply stayed at home and watched Trisha or whatever dross normally prevents them from going out and getting a job. But yes, the school should have found a legal way of simply confiscating all the food that was passed through the fence, and barred the children from leaving the school premises. Too many children won't eat food that doesn't come in a polystyrene packet, they are scared of trying something new. Pathetic, and it's their parents' fault.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Was that more to do with getting their faces on telly or with pandering to their kids' dietary "requirements"?

If it hadn't been a television programme, they would have simply stayed at home and watched Trisha or whatever dross normally prevents them from going out and getting a job. But yes, the school should have found a legal way of simply confiscating all the food that was passed through the fence, and barred the children from leaving the school premises. Too many children won't eat food that doesn't come in a polystyrene packet, they are scared of trying something new. Pathetic, and it's their parents' fault.

Quite possibly. They are probably satisfied with being fick, rather than fin.

I would have thought that the school had rights to stop foodstuffs or anything from being passed through the gate. If they wanted to feed their own children then they should have either given it to them alone or taken their kids out of the school and faced the consequences.

It does seem to tally with this general pandering to children.

After Johnny has mugged a old lady for the 5th time in a year.

'He is a good kid' says the father, slurping noisily from a Special Brew Can 'He hasn't been in trouble for ages and is misunderstood by the pigs and scum that rule the school'.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

I remember when he was first on the news a few years ago. The reporter stated that this guy had lost weight since he'd been on a diet and started excercising. Who would have thought it, eh?

Prader-Willi syndrome is not affected by exercise. It's a medical condition where the body actually needs a hugely reduced calorie intake, but the sufferer is not able to curb their appetite. They tend to have reduced IQs, and reduced physical and motor skills (it's related to problems in the womb). It's not something that affects a great amount of the population, but it tends to eventually kill those that it does affect, tending to make them literally eat themselves to death.

But yes, increased exercise and reduced calories can have a truly remarkable effect on the human body!