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REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
Argh, I'm really confused now!

go to Richer Sounds and buy the best tv you can afford, if you don't have a bluray/HD games machine or dvd don't worry about getting 1080p

Samsung all the way sunshine !!!
 
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Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I can vouch for that. Briefly earlier this year I was doing PC Support for Currys (don't buy from them, their technical support is a sick joke) and it's astonishing how bad TVs are. Add to this the fact that you can't get the spares for a lot of TVs, especially if they were originally sold cheap as end of line.

And when you can get spares, they have one chip doing 80% of the functions that costs nearly the entire retail price of the TV to buy from them, and thats before the TV shop charges you labour for desoldering/cleaning up and resoldering the new chip...
 


REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
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they have one chip doing 80% of the functions that costs nearly the entire retail price of the TV to buy from them

Your nonsense isn't required here :)
 




Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Your nonsense isn't required here :)

Nonsense? Google "philips painter chip". Virtually every TV these days has something similar, and similarly painfully expensive to replace. When I worked in sat installation the shop I did it with had a TV on sale for €299 where a Painter replacement was €200 ex VAT - this was some years ago.
 


REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
Nonsense? Google "philips painter chip". Virtually every TV these days has something similar, and similarly painfully expensive to replace. When I worked in sat installation the shop I did it with had a TV on sale for €299 where a Painter replacement was €200 ex VAT - this was some years ago.

this was the first link I found

I believe that it can be done DIY, if you know what you are doing.
Take the relevant board out, post it off to repair agent, put board back in.
Cost about £80.
Not sure what skill level you would need.
Generally a good TV once this problem solved.

thats a DAMN site cheaper than my TV cost

:DAMNSite:
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
this was the first link I found

I believe that it can be done DIY, if you know what you are doing.
Take the relevant board out, post it off to repair agent, put board back in.
Cost about £80.
Not sure what skill level you would need.
Generally a good TV once this problem solved.

thats a DAMN site cheaper than my TV cost

:DAMNSite:

If someone thinks they can get it replaced for £80, they're delusional. Unit cost of the chip is more than that alone.

I notice that the other 9 hits on the first page for it have more realistic prices from £150 upwards. Also, I assume you have something *slightly* posher than a 15" LCD, which is what the lower end units using that chip would be. The larger TVs are not easily disassembled and have more expensive parts, meaning that the repair cost again starts to approach the cost of the TV.

You're wrong, face it.
 




REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
If someone thinks they can get it replaced for £80, they're delusional. Unit cost of the chip is more than that alone.

I notice that the other 9 hits on the first page for it have more realistic prices from £150 upwards. Also, I assume you have something *slightly* posher than a 15" LCD, which is what the lower end units using that chip would be. The larger TVs are not easily disassembled and have more expensive parts, meaning that the repair cost again starts to approach the cost of the TV.

You're wrong, face it.

How can I be wrong, Im just posting other peoples experiences with the nonsense you posted, its thay who disagree with you

and yes my tv is bigger than 15 inches, whos the f*** isn't :yawn:
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
How can I be wrong, Im just posting other peoples experiences with the nonsense you posted, its thay who disagree with you

and yes my tv is bigger than 15 inches, whos the f*** isn't :yawn:

You've a habit of posting random gibberish off the internet when there's even the slightest risk of being proven wrong about anything about AV. Such as your obsession with claiming that cheap standard compliant cables can show a different checksummed identical image to an expensive compliant cable - just cause a magazine told you so. The slight problem of the breach of the fundamental laws of the universe being brushed under the carpet in the process.

You posted one persons 'experience' which is patent bullshit - and which also required opening the TV set, something that 99% of customers are never going to try and do -and ignored the thousands of others that agreed with me.
 


REDLAND

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Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,896
Guiseley
Now now boys! I've ordered a 32" samsung 1080p (will prob get bluray within the next year) from amazon.
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Now I'm lost !!!

Giving you an instruction to go read and learn about something (which failed woefully as you went and sought the one result that agreed with your predefined answer) and your ability to post links to pseudoscientific articles about "sparkles" and "insertion losses" that actually don't have any relevance to what's being said are completely, completely different.
 


REDLAND

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
Giving you an instruction to go read and learn about something (which failed woefully as you went and sought the one result that agreed with your predefined answer) and your ability to post links to pseudoscientific articles about "sparkles" and "insertion losses" that actually don't have any relevance to what's being said are completely, completely different.

I sought the first answer which disagreed with your post

It not my beef
 




Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I sought the first answer which disagreed with your post

It not my beef

Which equates to the same thing. You couldn't possibly accept that you were wrong when claiming my entirely truthful post was "nonsense" so went out of your way to find the one thing that claimed it was.
 


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