Reading Posh
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Are you inferring I'm think?
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O/T: Grammar pendantry
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Are you inferring I'm think?
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BensGrandad said:
It's called a tautology (as is the 'about 3-ish' one), and tautologies are bloody annoying.
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Reading Posh said:Are you inferring I'm think?
Eh?
You can tell we have had a poor start to the season by the fact that so many are contributing to this thread
m20gull
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Imply or infer is one that annoys me a lot.
The use of apostrophes in plurals is another error that annoys me.
Confusion of your and you're is common.
Inappropriate use of I and me. "Me and my friends went to Withdean on Tuesday and were sorely disappointed."
The use of apostrophes in plurals is another error that annoys me.
Confusion of your and you're is common.
Inappropriate use of I and me. "Me and my friends went to Withdean on Tuesday and were sorely disappointed."
Reading Posh
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"Are you inferring I'm thick?"
A line spoken by a police inspector in Tom Sharpe's book - Wilt.
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Reading Posh said:
Ah, thick. As your fellow townsman said, maybe it was a typo...
Tom Sharpe - my partner's favourite author.
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m20gull said:
That has always confused me, maybe you can clarify just when I and Me should be used in a sentence.
John and I went to Withdean - that's right, yes?
TV news presenters always say "goodnight from Trevor and me"
why not "goodnight from Trevor and I"?
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Icy Gull said:
The usual way to sort it out is to drop the other subjects/objects.
"I went to Withdean"; I is the subject of went.
"Goodnight from me";me is the object of from
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m20gull said:
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"English is an ever evolving language, and some aspects change purely through popular choice. 'Arsenal is out...' is actually correct, but 'Arsenal are out...' has become accepted as the norm mainly through spoken English (as opposed to written English - which is quite often slightly different). And we all know how commentators are prone to mix their metaphors and fudge the English language."
Dear me, TLO, starting a sentence with "and"
? It's "bollocks", by the way Chappers, not "bollock's", but then you probably knew that.
Dear me, TLO, starting a sentence with "and"
? It's "bollocks", by the way Chappers, not "bollock's", but then you probably knew that.m20gull
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Me is always an object "he hit me" - me is an object of the verb hit.Icy Gull said:Thanks but I'm not sure that helps
"That useless winger got a right ear-bashing from me"; me is the object of the word from
In neither of these cases could I obviously replace me (he hit I?).
So if you want to refer to more than one person then you replace me with the appropriate combination.
"he hit me and the person behind me"
"ear-bashing from me and the whole of the South Stand"
So to decide whether to use me or I in a combination with others, drop the others and see whether I or me is appropriate.
Consider the example "goodnight from Trevor and I/me". Drop the "Trevor and" - is it "goodnight from me" or "goodnight from I"? It's "me" as the first person is an object. So the correct answer is "goodnight from Trevor and me".
"I" is a subject, almost always with a verb. So whenever the combination is doing something, then "I" would be appropriate, however awkward that sounds.
Hence the Queen's "my husband and I".
So "my friends and I had a fine pint of Harvey's" which is consistent with "I had a fine pint of Harvey's"
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