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o/t - Fopp on North Street



Cheeky Monkey

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
23,879
What's going on with Brighton's most reasonably priced record shop(technically a CD shop I know)? Ever since they put the 'Sale' signs up in the window a week or so back it's been closed!
 




Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
Not enough people buy CD's anymore.

Same reason MVC vanished, along with most of the city's independent record shops
 










Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
23,879
Shoot that is terrible! According to their website it was lack of financial backing. Regardless of downloads/burning cds you'd think a shop that knocked out some pretty decent and recent albums for a fiver would have been a licence to print money. I know you can get CDs as cheap on Amazon etc. but it did offer high street convenience.
 


Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
I don't see how you can keep a high street presence with prices like that. Their margins must have been so tight you could see them bleeding.
 






Cheeky Monkey

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
23,879
What amazes me is that people still go into Virgin/HMV and pay £13 and up for a CD. Why would you do that? Virgin were knocking out the 'From Dust Til Dawn' DVD for the bargain price of £19.99 when I was last in there!!
 


REDLAND

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
9,443
At the foot of the downs
Not enough people buy CD's anymore.

Same reason MVC vanished, along with most of the city's independent record shops

theres still loads of indie and 2nd hand record shops in town !!
 


Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
Not as many as there used to be.

We are still very lucky compared to a lot of places, but we used to be luckier
 








Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
What amazes me is that people still go into Virgin/HMV and pay £13 and up for a CD. Why would you do that? Virgin were knocking out the 'From Dust Til Dawn' DVD for the bargain price of £19.99 when I was last in there!!

The "I want it NOW" factor. I do 95%+ of my music shopping in real shops, and 4% on DRM-free download services (eMusic, Vonyc, DJDownload). And about 1% on Amazon/Capital/Juno.
 




Wozza

Custom title
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
24,379
Minteh Wonderland
All record shops are suffering poor sales compared to ten or twenty years ago.

It was inevitable

Again, Fopp's sales were very healthy. Turnover was very good (alebit showing a very small profit).

They over-stretched in the last couple of years, and expanded too quickly.

And managment f***ed up the acquisition of MusicZone (Fopp though they'd bought the stock, but distributors claimed overwise).

There are many articles on the situation out there...
 


The Mole

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Feb 20, 2004
1,369
Bowdon actually , Cheshire
apparently the group that owned fopp had also bought out MVC
music zone bought mvc which over stretched them and was the main reason they folded. also they weren't looking at the downloads market. they went unnder at the start of the year when fopp bought them. I don't nave as much inside knowledge about their management, but they didn't integrate the mz stores (in fact the most profitable store in the traffod centre remained shut).
fopp stopped paying their suppliers who prevented them from selling any new releases - pretty disasterous for a music business. they went into receivership on the last day of june to avoid having to pay any wages for that month (nice!)
so I don't think there's any chance for another buyer
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
Too many kids/adults download free music, years of being fleeced by the record companies and consumers have turned round and bitten back.

Prince is even giving his album away in The Mail on Sunday this week!

The Mail is paying him a cool half a million quid up front for exclusive rights to UK distribution. HMV are stocking the Mail on Sunday to sell to customers.
 


Cheeky Monkey

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
23,879
Prince is even giving his album away in The Mail on Sunday this week!

The Mail is paying him a cool half a million quid up front for exclusive rights to UK distribution. HMV are stocking the Mail on Sunday to sell to customers.

Yeah just seen the tv ad for that - how weird is that!?!?! Shame he hasn't been told what a ****ish paper he's sold his soul to.
 




Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Too many kids/adults download free music, years of being fleeced by the record companies and consumers have turned round and bitten back.

Prince is even giving his album away in The Mail on Sunday this week!

The Mail is paying him a cool half a million quid up front for exclusive rights to UK distribution. HMV are stocking the Mail on Sunday to sell to customers.

Sales have not gone down!!!! Did you read the rest of the thread? Record labels lie, sales figures do not.
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
Jul 7, 2003
9,353
Fopp's pricing was good but their stores were designed for people who were browsing. It was a nightmare if you were looking for anything in particular - I know it's an old fashioned idea but being able to quickly find something by genre and in alphabetical order is much easier than trying to find out if it is on sale for £7, £9, etc.
 


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