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O/T: Does liking something that posh people like automatically make you posh?

















Goldstone1976

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Haha, I should but I don't. I have waaaay too many dvds.

Now there's a thought. Is something posh if you feel that you should like it/do it, but don't? An element of guilt involved, perhaps?
 


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Now there's a thought. Is something posh if you feel that you should like it/do it, but don't? An element of guilt involved, perhaps?

Probably depends on the company you're in, doesn it? When you're with certain people you might downplay any level of "culture" you have, even change the words you use a bit, while with others you might feel like an uncultured oaf - "yes, I must get to that art exhibition".
 




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It's the class system what done it.

Yep - many people will feel this, I'm sure. But what about the self-made man who has money pouring out of his ears? Alan Sugar, for example. Does anyone think Alan Sugar is posh? He does have multiple houses, a Roller with the number plate AMS 1 and any number of things that would presumably qualify him as posh (if it weren't for the fact that he's a street kid done good).
 


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"It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him." George Bernard Shaw preface to Pygmalion.
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Inverse snobbery is unattractive. The attitude of some staff towards me at the Legal & General (where I was temping to fund my Gap Yah), when I told them I went to Lancing College, changed overnight. So many people with twisted morals.

I like to see myself as a rounded individual.

I'll give up my seat (if I have to make do with public transport) to ladies (assuming they are attractive). I'll now walk past 99p stores and not cross the road to avoid coming in to contact with their customers. I'll talk to bus drivers if I have to and circumstances dictate I must use the bus. I'll even venture in to Aldi/Lidl (armed with a Waitrose bag for life), if they have a decent deal on plonk and smoked salmon.
 




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Inverse Snobbery is just as bad as Snobbery.
 






BuddyBoy

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Yep - many people will feel this, I'm sure. But what about the self-made man who has money pouring out of his ears? Alan Sugar, for example. Does anyone think Alan Sugar is posh? He does have multiple houses, a Roller with the number plate AMS 1 and any number of things that would presumably qualify him as posh (if it weren't for the fact that he's a street kid done good).

New money etc. He's certainly got a working class accent - in the traditional, almost outdated sense. The term 'posh' is almost impossible to pin down now, perhaps due to the far more fluid class system of post WWII Britain. It's a derogatory term that seems to be based on little more than someones accent. For example, I was at a wedding over the weekend, one of the guests was incredibly well spoken and I thought to myself 'hmm, he's posh', only to later find out he's skint working a dead end job.

I suppose I'd fundamentally consider posh to mean aristocracy (if I had to). To have expensive taste seems to be classed as 'cultured' these days.
 
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I like reading, cricket, rugby union and good restaurants. I'm not sure this makes me in any way posh. I'll hold my hand up to middle class if I must. On the other hand there is a girl at somewhere I work occasionally who is very junior because she's just joined the team. However she speaks with an impeccable cut glass accent and I've thought her posh ever since I first heard her speak.
 






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Doesn't matter how much money Katie Price owns, 99% of people will always be posher than her, and those that aren't all live in Croyden
 


Goldstone1976

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New money etc. He's certainly got a working class accent - in the traditional, almost outdated sense. The term 'posh' is almost impossible to pin down now, perhaps due to the far more fluid class system of post WWII Britain. It's a derogatory term that seems to be based on little more than someones accent. For example, I was at a wedding over the weekend, one of the guests was incredibly well spoken and I thought to myself 'hmm, he's posh', only to later find out he's skint working a dead end job.

I suppose I'd fundamentally consider posh to mean aristocracy (if I had to). To have expensive taste seems to be classed as 'cultured' these days.

Right. So, as others have said, accent is a major determinant. Perhaps the class into which one was born (aristocracy, for example). Ok - let's try someone else then. How about Tony Benn? He was born aristocratic, had an accent that many would describe as "posh" and was very intellectual. yet he gave up the title and became a labour MP (one who espoused reasonably socialist policies to boot - i.e. pre-New Labour).

Was Tony Benn posh before he gave up the title? Did he stop being posh afterwards?

My own view? I think he was posh at the start and remained posh later too....
 


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