Nzuzi Toko on his way out

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

And the Champions League.
BTW, Grasshoppers would tear us apart.

Meh. CKR played in the Champions League.

Only one way to decide who would win a fight between Seagulls and Grasshoppers... Pre Season Friendly!

 

[TonyW]

Let's bring em on then.
CKR got quite good at some point though.

 

[Easy 10]

Think some serious eyebrows have to be raised over this signing. doesn't do the eyebrow-raising seriousness justice.

How on EARTH did we ever end up signing a player who had only ever played for Grasshoppers in the mighty Swiss League?

I wouldn't be overly dismissive of signing someone who'd played top flight football in the Swiss league. Ulloa had only really played in the spanish second division, which probably isn't much different in standard.

I never once saw him kick a ball for us though, so I can only assume he truly is complete and utter toilet, crapness of Agustien levels, and so must go down as another nail in the coffin of Burkes career.

 

[Yoda]

I don't think Burke can be credited with Ulloa...wasn't Gus tracking him for a couple of years before landing him in January 2013 ? That would've pre-dated any Burke involvement in discovering him.

I believe so, think we had been keeping tabs on him for at least a year waiting for him to be granted Spanish citizenship.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Quite staggering that he was behind complete and utter JUNK like Gardner all season. I mean how bad do you have to be ? Agustien bad ??

Nice one Burke.

Right answer!

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

I don't think Burke can be credited with Ulloa...wasn't Gus tracking him for a couple of years before landing him in January 2013 ? That would've pre-dated any Burke involvement in discovering him.

Yes. Burke sacked the scout that found Ulloa.

 

[MattBackHome]

I wouldn't be overly dismissive of signing someone who'd played top flight football in the Swiss league. Ulloa had only really played in the spanish second division, which probably isn't much different in standard.

I never once saw him kick a ball for us though, so I can only assume he truly is complete and utter toilet, crapness of Agustien levels, and so must go down as another nail in the coffin of Burkes career.

He was good the only time I saw him*

*against Lewes

 

[Simster]

Seriously, how the hell did this useless nob-end get a job as head of football at a club like ours? :

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-burke/22/225/998

Useless bell-end.

 

[BBassic]

Shame; he's been Player of the Season two years in a row for me on Football Manager 2015.

 

[father_and_son]

Would be beneficial for him and for the club. No point in slagging off a player who never had any opportunity to prove themselves.

This. So long as the club know why it didn't work and don't make the same mistake (whatever that was) again, best part company as soon and as amicably as possible.

 

[father_and_son]

Meh. CKR played in the Champions League.

Only one way to decide who would win a fight between Seagulls and Grasshoppers... Pre Season Friendly!

Enter them both in World's Hardest Creature!

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Would be beneficial for him and for the club. No point in slagging off a player who never had any opportunity to prove themselves.

I wouldn't slag him off, but he's had half of season of training and development squad games to prove himself to 3 different coaches - I think people are probably justified in assuming he is utter dogshite.

 

[HantsSeagull]

I must question how you know this?

It's a shame Toko never worked out, I thought he was the like for like replacement for Bridcutt we'd been looking for.

Sorry but not prepared to say. I am guessing it's a fairly obvious call but let's see if I am right. If not, I will happily take a ban.

 

[Rogero]

What sort of wage would Toko be on ? £3,000 a week? I really have no idea.

 

[Uncle C]

Sorry but not prepared to say. I am guessing it's a fairly obvious call but let's see if I am right. If not, I will happily take a ban.

If everyone who started a rumour on here took a ban, the place would be empty.

 

[Danny-Boy]

I think the last time that a signing had me so excited and then delivered so little was Federico Turienzo.

Sami Hyypia?

 

[Peter Grummit]

At least we actually got a handful of appearances out of him. And didn't he score a late goal once in the Cup ? Or is my memory playing tricks on me.

He has played 20 minutes at Burton. That is it. (source:Soccerbase).

He did look very comfortable playing 45 mins in preseason. But it was at Lewes. And when I have seen him for the DS he has looked v ordinary.

PG

 

[severnside gull]

I wouldn't slag him off, but he's had half of season of training and development squad games to prove himself to 3 different coaches - I think people are probably justified in assuming he is utter dogshite.

Fair enough but I'm really not so sure. Settling in a new country. Injured pre-season then caught up in the whole tactical mess that was Sami Hyypia. His confidence and self belief were probably destroyed and whilst it's easy to reel out all the stuff about being paid to play football we all know that even sportsmen are not necessarily emotionally resilient.
Hopefully we can let a few go this window - Toko, O'Grady, Paddy, maybe CMS and (hopefully) Kemy.
It will clear some wages, allow us to bring in some new blood, and maybe put a few youngsters on the bench.
If we can pick up enough to leave fans feeling more positive at the season end then have a good early pre-season of transfer activity, maybe the drop in ST sales will be less catastrophic than might otherwise be the case and we can hope for another tilt at the top spots next year

 

[beorhthelm]

i still hold that this was a settling in issue, i cant see that someone playing regular football in a top team in a top tier, albeit Swiss, can be that bad. best to move on for all.

 

[Dave the OAP]

It may be controversial, but personally I wouldn't have benno back. As much as I like the guy.

He is in no way the player he was when he first came here. I think we could do better.