NY Times article on Tony Bloom - Barton not happy?

[El Presidente]

I'm not sure that TB paid $130 million to buy the club!

 

[WonderingSoton]

It's easy to see why Bloom would want to keep the professional sport gambling side of his business quiet and as far removed and separate as possible from his ownership of a football club. Whilst I'm certain everyone involved is professional enough for there to be zero conflicts of interest, others around the footballing world who look at Brighton enviously, as well as various authorities looking to be seen to tackle corruption, may not be so allowing and may want to go digging. Bloom's betting relies in his methods being unknown and not being dug into or made public for rival companies to know.

 

[El Presidente]

I've been told that because TB has focussed historically on the Asian market, his business is more valuable than Bet365, which means he's done well for himself (and his benevolence has of course benefitted the Albion immensely).

 

[BBassic]

Legally - 100% correct. Bloom (and Coates at Stoke, etc) have broken no rules, whereas Barton did (over 1,000 times) and has earned his punishment.

More generally though, you can have some sympathy with his view that football's house is not entirely in order regards their relationship with the gambling industry.

Hell will freeze over, thaw out and freeze again before I have any sympathy for that utter stain or any of his views.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I've been told that because TB has focussed historically on the Asian market, his business is more valuable than Bet365, which means he's done well for himself (and his benevolence has of course benefitted the Albion immensely).

Would that mean that he's worth more than Denise Coates? If so, that's staggering.

 

[Barry Izbak]

I don't need to read the article to know that Barton is a C

He's about to start co presenting on Talksport with Adrian Durham this weekend. I cannot conceive of any combination more likely to guarantee I would never listen.

I hate the C

 

[Springal]

I don't need to read the article to know that Barton is a C

The article doesn't really mention Barton. Much more about Bloom / us and other gambling involvement in the UK game than Barton

 

[Notters]

what property development arm? is there a record of his companies and investment? trouble with our Tony's secrecy is no a lot of public information, wasn't long ago that reports assumed his entire wealth was from the the betting web site he sold, even though he'd put more than that in BHA.

I don't think anyone knows the details. A list of UK companies he's director of, or was director of, are here but there are no doubt more in Australia and elsewhere...

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Q_ADm7H9pnKODGCzK1SOUE7PJbI/appointments


None of our business though, I suppose.

 

[Lower West Stander]

Legally - 100% correct. Bloom (and Coates at Stoke, etc) have broken no rules, whereas Barton did (over 1,000 times) and has earned his punishment.

More generally though, you can have some sympathy with his view that football's house is not entirely in order regards their relationship with the gambling industry.

I don't think you can have sympathy with Joey Barton's view on anything

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

TB owns a betting consultancy where his empolyees make investments on his customers behalf. Unlike Barton who placed bet for himself. Interesting in the companies house link that there is no mention of Star Lizzard which I thought was the name of the consultancy.

 

[The_Viper]

So Tony's company could have contributed to getting Barton found out and banned. If you didn't love him enough already...

 

[Ernest]

I'm not sure that TB paid $130 million to buy the club!

Dick Tight threw in some of the 1983 FA Cup final cash to sweeten the deal

 

[Eeyore]

Another media source thinking that Tony has made all his money from one source. What about his property development arm?

The idea that his resources come through gambling is absurd. I'd say it's more a hobby on the side.

 

[Triggaaar]

Thought it was weird that Bloom wasn't listed as a director of Star Lizard, and he gave another one of his companies a £30 mill interest free loan.
A generous businessman.

Why is that weird, and why is it generous? What kind of bullshit statement are you trying to make?

 

[LlcoolJ]

Why is that weird, and why is it generous? What kind of bullshit statement are you trying to make?

It's the usual Palace straw clutching. Nothing to see here.

 

[Joe Gatting's Dad]

His name is not listed under Star Lizard as he is deliberately not a director, although he may own shares, probably to keep his interests in the football club away from his main gambling interests. I expect this is a FA/PL/EFL requirement.

 

[kentgully]

Love him

 

[El Presidente]

So Tony's company could have contributed to getting Barton found out and banned. If you didn't love him enough already...

It didn't. The betting company that Barton had used for a number of years informed the authorities. What their motives were are unclear.

I used to do some work with City a few years ago, always found Joey Barton to be pleasant, he was great with the kids who watched the players train. He's done some bad and some stupid things, but many of us have addictions and problems, and it doesn't make us automatically *****, so why him?

 

[clapham_gull]

Self confessed Barton fan bringing some colour to the game.

For every 10 public relations trained robots you need someone like Joey.

Dragged up in the old world of football, dealing with the modern.

I like him.

There is clear hypocrisy in the game which allows betting to pump millions in the game, sorry.

The fact that he wasn't allowed to appear in a Grenfell fund raising match is ridiculous.

 

[Goldstone1976]

It didn't. The betting company that Barton had used for a number of years informed the authorities. What their motives were are unclear.

I used to do some work with City a few years ago, always found Joey Barton to be pleasant, he was great with the kids who watched the players train. He's done some bad and some stupid things, but many of us have addictions and problems, and it doesn't make us automatically *****, so why him?

Did he show the kids who attended the training session how he practicised performing a career-ending stamp on a fellow pro's leg in such a way as to make it plausible it was an accident?

There's poor behaviour, of which, as you say, we're all guilty, and then there's potentially career-ending thuggery.