Nuclear Power

[Eggmundo]

Apparently there is a system in Germany where you install vast solar panels on your roof and link them directly to the mains.
I know solar power isn't 'all that' but when you aren't actually drawing any power at home, the excess is tapped by the electric company and you are paid for it.?
Although I may have dreamt it?

 

[Easy 10]

I guess we can all look forward to having that lovely 'Ready Break' glow then.

 

[Pevenseagull]

closer to home - Dungeness A closes next year after it's 40 year run

the site is due to be cleared by 2111

cost of decommissioning, again estimated at £1.2billion (not including disposal of waste)

 

[Pevenseagull]

Sellafield still has 5yrs to run and will generate revenues of 5bn over that period

unfortunately it's a rather tricky one to decommission, work should finish in 2150 and the estimated cost comes in at 31.5bn (again, still got to find somewhere to put that pesky rubbish - they can start removing the high level waste sometime in 2075)

 

[Grendel]

cost of decommissioning, again estimated at £1.2billion (not including disposal of waste)

The cost of decommissioning isn't really relevant seeing as it's being paid by BNFL.

 

[Stinky Kat]

Incredibly inefficient and hideous. The proposed Romney Marsh development of 26 turbines will cost upwards of £50 million, be visible from the Weald and generate 70MW of power a year at best. Dungeness A, on it's last legs and due to be decommissioned next year, produces 1,100MW per annum.

I think wind turbines look great. The one a Glastonbury in the 1990ies was very striking

 

[Pevenseagull]

The cost of decommissioning isn't really relevant seeing as it's being paid by BNFL.

where do you think they get their money from? Money trees?

 

[Grendel]

where do you think they get their money from? Money trees?

From being a huge multi-national profit making organisation?

 

[33057 Seagull]

Sellafield still has 5yrs to run and will generate revenues of 5bn over that period

unfortunately it's a rather tricky one to decommission, work should finish in 2150 and the estimated cost comes in at 31.5bn (again, still got to find somewhere to put that pesky rubbish - they can start removing the high level waste sometime in 2075)

I may be wrong but the only current Nuclear Power Station which has a medium term future is Sizewell - Lowestoft way.

 

[Grendel]

I may be wrong but the only current Nuclear Power Station which has a medium term future is Sizewell - Lowestoft way.

It depends what you call medium term. Heysham and Torness have another 18 years or so left.

 

[Seasider]

closer to home - Dungeness A closes next year after it's 40 year run

the site is due to be cleared by 2111

cost of decommissioning, again estimated at £1.2billion (not including disposal of waste)

I thought they had just announced a 10 year extension of Dungeness A?

 

[Pevenseagull]

From being a huge multi-national profit making organisation?

which 'huge multi-national profit making organisation' would YOU trust with your grandchildren's health?

e.g.

Blair's already dismissed any blame on the behalf of the avaricious entrpeneur responsible for millions of doses of faulty flu and TB vaccine SOLD GLOBALLY damaging the reputation of our biotech industry

As a penalty for the f*** up viz our global profile he made the guy responsible a Lord (in fairness, the Lord in question - Drayson - had done the decent thing and donated million+ to Blairs recent election campaign)

a modern day Harry Lime gets a knighthood with this buch of tossers


!!!!!


what chance have we got?



BTW


100 yrs ago the North Manchester Canal Company where one of Europes 10 biggest companies - fortunately when times move on a few people in wellies can clear up a canal

100yrs ago flour mills were big business

Irrespective, politically Nuclear should be a non starter - how can we use it and deny other nations the use in case they make 'the most' of the fissile waste products?

 

[Pevenseagull]

I thought they had just announced a 10 year extension of Dungeness A?

if there is an extention it's akin to giving a f***ed up athlete a cortisone jab


all jam today - that's the only way

 

[chip]

I've lived near Trawsfynydd and Wylfa and, in themselves, they were not a significant blot on the landscape. The power cables and pylons were though.

On the whole I back nuclear power. It will be cheaper than fosil and renewable fuels, more predicatable and give greater security and flexibility in meeting future needs.

There do not seem to be any significant health risks either. We already import nuclear energy from France and would only be going up to their levels of production. The alternative is poverty.

 

[Brixtaan]

The alternative is poverty.

you sound like the Terminator.

I thought the only problem with Nuclear power was the waste plutonium/strontium .Is this right? why can't we just shoot it off into space?

 

[Pevenseagull]

you sound like the Terminator.

I thought the only problem with Nuclear power was the waste plutonium/strontium .Is this right? why can't we just shoot it off into space?

I assume they try to make shuttle missions pretty safe and two of them have gone all standard fireworks

irrespective of the FUEL involved, perhaps not the safest way of disposing of fissile material


but perhaps I'm just being picky

 

[Brixtaan]

maybe not then.

 

[chip]

I'm sure that we will be sending some of it to Iran soon.

Pevenseagill you need to chill out a bit. If we follow your line of thinking we will all have to chill out while making the Russians quite rich. Haven't they (some russians) been trying to but British Gas? Without nuclear there is no way of meeting our current, let alone future, power requirements.

 

[Pevenseagull]

power is business is power etc.


the companies involved are commercial outfits and they can make their money two ways

1 cut expenses

2 increase revenues


they respond to shareholder pressure - even on an institutional level investors want PROOF that there will be a profit over the next 10 yrs - new customers is the answer in most accepted biz models - with rising running costs the answer is- open more plants - Tony's mates are all Directors, we can get it through

Capitalism and a century of run off costs is untested, those 'reponsible' are receiving the profits and in time (if they are still involved) will be looking for a way of avoiding the costs. Fortunately they know that if they f*** up the government MUST bail them out so why should they observe duty of care .... anyone who thinks a top exec is an alturist is living in cloud cuckoo land. Gates may be an exception that proves the rule but he's self made, the !!!!! in charge of this future debacle are self serving short-termists stuffing their pockets and leaving you, your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren etc to pick up the tab for filling their boots today.

fuckers

 

[Pevenseagull]

I'm sure that we will be sending some of it to Iran soon.

Pevenseagill you need to chill out a bit. If we follow your line of thinking we will all have to chill out while making the Russians quite rich. Haven't they (some russians) been trying to but British Gas? Without nuclear there is no way of meeting our current, let alone future, power requirements.

have you been smoking somthing?