Bikes are way more dangerous than cars, which could be why. Motorcyclists make up 1% of road users, and account for 40% of all road fatalities, so perhaps the rigorous testing and slowly going up power brackets ia a good thing
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Bikes are way more dangerous than cars, which could be why. Motorcyclists make up 1% of road users, and account for 40% of all road fatalities, so perhaps the rigorous testing and slowly going up power brackets ia a good thing
DanielT
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Slowly up the power brackets is a great idea and the new range of lower bhp bikes is good to see. Honda's one base with 3 styles especially.
But the amount of tests to get an A licence seems more of a money grab than a safety initiative
GoingUp
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I'm looking to get myself a motorbike in the near future and I was wondering what recommendations anyone could give me for a decent, not too expensive and good sized bike for a new rider. I was hoping to go with a 500cc. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
hi mate,
depends what type or style of bike you want, i had never ridden a bike before (aside from dirt biking in fields and borrowing mates moped 7years before) and took intensive week long test, so i was in the same boat, thinking what bike i wanted...
i wanted a sports bike so opted for honda cbr600 after taking advice, they are the best 'beginners' or entree bike if your looking to go down the sportsbike route, its got very manageable power as its happy to ride along at a slow pace, but its also a pretty quick bike... anything slower is pointless, as you will quickly find it boring, and nothing else rides a like sports bike...
after a year of the cbr600, i got bored and stepped up to a cbr1000 (fireblade) and am happy with the bike, its been a good transition...
hope that helps...
GingerBeerMan
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- Dec 29, 2011
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IMO the two year period of restriction to 33bhp was perfect, but should have been rolled out to everyone, not just under 21's.
What makes an under 21 with 5 years riding experience more likely to crash than, for example, a 40 year old who has no riding experience? Nothing, it's just age discrimination.
What makes an under 21 with 5 years riding experience more likely to crash than, for example, a 40 year old who has no riding experience? Nothing, it's just age discrimination.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
That's a very bold statement.
In your long motorcycling career how many types other that sportsbikes have you owned and ridden for say more than 100 miles?
GoingUp
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upping the powerbands bit by bit is pointless, 125/250 bikes are guttless...
hopping on a 600cc in your 20's onwards is ideal... they arnt stupidly quick, they ride well at low speed... i agree hopping straight on a 1000cc is a deathwish, because the front ends come up easy... but a 600 is still very tame, and gives you a taste of what speed can feel like...
upping from 125 to 250 to 500, 600 then to 1000 is a waste of money and bikes...
hopping on a 600cc in your 20's onwards is ideal... they arnt stupidly quick, they ride well at low speed... i agree hopping straight on a 1000cc is a deathwish, because the front ends come up easy... but a 600 is still very tame, and gives you a taste of what speed can feel like...
upping from 125 to 250 to 500, 600 then to 1000 is a waste of money and bikes...
GoingUp
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i mean for instance the 125cc bikes shaped like superbikes (like the aprilia ones) dont ride the same as a 600cc or 1000cc, from the ridding position, to the acceleration and the threat of the front wheel coming up... ive ridden a 125 aprilia, and owned a 600crb and now 1000cbr...
i was stating that if youve never ridden a bike before, and you want to start riding a 'superbike', starting off on 125, then 250 if pointless because they act nothing like the 600's and 1000's, start off on 600 (after youve passed your test) then get used to that, then move to a 1000...
Hornblower
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- Jul 7, 2003
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The thing is, when I was a lad (40 odd years ago) we all had motorcycles - it was what you did before you bought a car. These days the majority of people buying new bikes are forty and fifty something's trying to relive their youth. Young people don't seem to be interested in bikes anymore, my kids went straight to cars. So, when all these weekend warriors die off who will be left riding bikes? I have ridden bikes all my life and will only stop when I can't climb onto the thing - I have a GS currently and some mornings it does feel like climbing a mountain. But I worry about the future for motorcycle manufacturers when the current crop of Harley/Triumph/R1 riders die off which they surely must soon if the way they ride is anything to go by.
GoingUp
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i guess the increasing price of bikes, whilst cars getting cheaper to own, plus the schitt state of the roads arnt helping the stage of biking thats for sure...
i suppose people see bikes as a toy or luxury now because everyone has accessibility to own a car these days... they are alot more dangerous then they used to be to...
DanielT
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I would be interested in the figures for accidents involving 40-50 year old 'born-again bikers' who get straight on a fireblade. This is the group, along with scooter riders, that I would have thought would have the most accidents
Plake
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The insurance companies agree with you, especially if you have a claim.
I ride a fireblade now, bought new in 2012, wiped out on a massive diesel spill coming out of the Marina in February which I had to claim for, no claims not protected, doh!.
I'm 39, had a full license for 20 years and loads of experience albeit with a break of about 7 years when I just had a moped (then a cbr6). I'm now borderline uninsurable on the blade. My renewal was £4500!!
Managed to get it down to £2k but still, fooking hell.
Trouble is, once you get addicted to litre supersports bikes, nothing else is the same. It just isn't and that is not a bold statement with ref to the earlier post.
GoingUp
Well-known member
Daum that's harsh I take it you can't sue the council, owner of the spillage or anyone
My mate knows someone who is suing the council for damaging his car on A pothole...
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
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How much did you pay for the year when you had to claim for the diesel spill? even if though you did not have any NCB protection, you would only have lost 10%.
the only way you ever going to fully enjoy a sports bike is to take it on the track, your never ever going to explore its real potential on the roads, sure you can open it up and do 140-150 in a straight line, but that's not what the're designed to do best, it through the bends where the exploration is which can only be done on the track without kerbs, drains and lampposts.
I am gonna do my first track day this summer.
Only ride a VFR800 not a crazy litre sports bike, but very keen to see how much it will do round the bends.
foul old ron
I'll decide, thank you.
I took a VFR750 (complete with luggage racks) round Brands Hatch a few years ago and left quite a few sports bikes for dead. Enjoy.
Do it, they're great.
I've done Brands GP circuit a few times on my ThunderAce, as traffic light Grand Prix's in London (and up Denmark Hill in particular..) were getting a bit scary.
The GP circuit costs more money, but is beautiful around the middle section, and has the two near top speed straights to really gun it without fear of taxi's etc pulling out on you. Tape up that speedo..
Have fun, and good luck.. unlike my mate who hi-sided his R6 at 10.30 am on Clarke Curve.. They put the remains of what they could find of it on a trailer, rolled into the paddock, and pushed it off again.. What a tool..
jakarta
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Blimey, I'm not coming on any NSC Runs in that case, I'm far too old and seem to ride slower and slower each year. Haven't taken my CBR600F past 125 MPH in the past few years and don't really see any need to.
From experience with a guy I used to work with track days seem to be a good way of wrapping your bike and yourself around some hard scenery (he rang his parents up from a track day to request a Hire van to come up to Yorkshire to pick up a severely bent Ducati and a rider with a broken collar bone)
Having said that I would love to have a trundle around Goodwood, the back section of the circuit looks to have some marvellous sweeping bends.
I have luggage racks too.
Hoping to show those sports bikes boys a thing or two myself.
Plake
Unregistered User
Daum that's harsh I take it you can't sue the council, owner of the spillage or anyone
No, the only way the council can be held responsible is if the spill had already been reported and they'd ignored it. Which they say it hadn't.
It was on the first right hand bend coming up the ramp from the marina. Take care all, lots of crashes there I have since learned. First bend on an uphill after a petrol station = frequent fuel spills.