[Albion] Not trains at all for Brentford.

[Bold Seagull]

Again, no it is certainly not hilarious, the 'what if' situation turned out correct as we have now had the lowest attended first team match at the Amex.

I reckon the club did well, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that there were only around 12,000 supporters there judging by the empty swathes in the north and east. I am sure the West was equally bad, but I cannot see that as I'm in it.

There is simply no universe, except one filled with spin, where a crowd which is usually around 30,000 and is more than halved due to the unfortunate timing of the game, can be seen as a triumph. It fulfilled the worst fears of those pointing this out once the kick-off was scheduled. You and Chailey are trying very hard to polish a turd, and it won't work.

Well put. 8pm Boxing Day kick off was and is moronic and shouldn’t be on the calendar for any club again. Why is it every normal Sunday the latest KO is 4.30pm, but Boxing Day gets an 8pm!? Ridiculous.

I’d like to congratulate everyone that didn’t go, that meant Sky had to address the KO time and lack of crowd live on air because we’ll continue to eat the TV-shit if we merrily carry on with a ‘wasn’t the Boxing Day 8pm ko fantastic as I got a lovely bus with plenty of room from my local Sainsburys’.

 

[southstandandy]

Was very easy in the end. Parked up in Coledean which was very quiet, and a nice 20min walk to the ground. Home by 10.40pm. Simple.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I’ll make it easy for you - it is hilarious that despite all the extra effort & cost the club went to for alternative transport that people can’t accept that they did well - they have to add ‘YES BUT WHAT IF MORE PEOPLE DECIDED TO GO THEN IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN’

The rest of the circumstances around the kick off time and tiny attendance are not hilarious, but again out of the clubs hands.

Please, and I'll make it easy for you, WHO IS SAYING THE CLUB DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB? They did, but they were aided perhaps by the fact that half our fans decided to not turn up. Yeah a real triumph.

You are concentrating on the wrong thing, the idiocy of the kick-off time, the disregard for the fans and that the difficulties surrounding the transport caused the probably the lowest ever Amex attendance for a first team league match.

 

[chaileyjem]

Again, no it is certainly not hilarious, the 'what if' situation turned out correct as we have now had the lowest attended first team match at the Amex.

I reckon the club did well, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that there were only around 12,000 supporters there judging by the empty swathes in the north and east. I am sure the West was equally bad, but I cannot see that as I'm in it.

There is simply no universe, except one filled with spin, where a crowd which is usually around 30,000 and is more than halved due to the unfortunate timing of the game, can be seen as a triumph. It fulfilled the worst fears of those pointing this out once the kick-off was scheduled. You and Chailey are trying very hard to polish a turd, and it won't work.

Who says it was a triumph ? I don’t want to attend games in half empty stadiums like I did last night. And I feel for people missing games for the first time in years due to Covid or just because they had other commitments

But a lot of the threads on here about the transport options laid on by Brighton and Brentford turned out in the end to be unhelpful nonsense.

 

[faoileán]

We don’t know why people didn’t go. But there will have been other reasons than merely a 8pm kick off with Covid, health and being in self isolation being a key one, as well as it being on TV or difficulty in passing on tickets. There were big gaps at all the games in the PL yesterday.

Of course we know why people didn't go, and in this order of priority:

1. no public transport
2. ridiculous KO time on a family get-together day
3. Covid concerns
4. live on TV
5. poor on-pitch performances recently

 

[Lower West Stander]

What do you think would have happened ? And do you have any info to support that ( buses hired, queue flow, car park capacity, percentage walked) or is it just guess work ?
I think it would have coped (I think the club know what they are doing here but agreed - I’m guessing) and as a reason for not attending it’s a shame if anyone gave a good game and victory a swerve because they believed it might be the like the “fall of Saigon” as one poster gleefully put it. Etc

The lack of fans was symbiotic with the lack of trains and other public transport. For those who went, like me, it was easy based on the simple quantum there were less people at the game.

And you know very well there were many reasons for the low attendance last night. Some of which very much were the club’s fault.


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[portlock seagull]

Who says it was a triumph ? I don’t want to attend games in half empty stadiums like I did last night. And I feel for people missing games for the first time in years due to Covid or just because they had other commitments

But a lot of the threads on here about the transport options laid on by Brighton and Brentford turned out in the end to be unhelpful nonsense.

You do appreciate the transport generally went smoothly because only half the crowd turned up? I’m days of yore, Boxing Day was a bumper crowd, now - because of television - it’s damage limitation. Modern football. Right there.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Who says it was a triumph ? I don’t want to attend games in half empty stadiums like I did last night. And I feel for people missing games for the first time in years due to Covid or just because they had other commitments

But a lot of the threads on here about the transport options laid on by Brighton and Brentford turned out in the end to be unhelpful nonsense.

I started this thread because, when I found that there were no trains or buses, that there was a good reason to alert people to that as it would have major implications on their planning. That was correct.

I won't mention names, but there were posters in previous threads who were claiming a full or near full service on the trains would be provided which turned out to be completely pie in the sky.

If you really think that a major game, that turns out to be a sellout, that has the main source of transport removed as an option, isn't merited from discussing as it is a negative topic, then I do not understand why.

The facts speak for themselves, the club did well with what they were given, well done BHA. However it was a disaster in terms of the supporters and looked really bad there and on TV. Like you I am sorry that genuine supporters missed out, we are the most important factor in our clubs and yet, we are often the last consideration, if indeed any consideration is given at all.

 

[Guinness Boy]

We don’t know why people didn’t go. But there will have been other reasons than merely a 8pm kick off with Covid, health and being in self isolation being a key one, as well as it being on TV or difficulty in passing on tickets. There were big gaps at all the games in the PL yesterday.

No, there weren't.

There were huge gaps at West Ham and Spurs and without doubt Covid played its part there because of the Omicron rates in London. On MotD Norwich and Villa looked full (or at least Norwich was until they conceded their third). Man City is never full, they proudly sing about it, but was about normal for their games unless the upper tiers and camera side were empty (and you won't know that any more than me). In other words, outside of London, it was fine.

The 8pm kick off was directly responsible for an awful attendance and, frankly I'm glad not everyone trotted along like sheep and astounded that some football fans are still defending the indefensible.

 

[BN9 BHA]

You do appreciate the transport generally went smoothly because only half the crowd turned up?

He doesn’t agree with this as he’s already pointed out to me.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well put. 8pm Boxing Day kick off was and is moronic and shouldn’t be on the calendar for any club again. Why is it every normal Sunday the latest KO is 4.30pm, but Boxing Day gets an 8pm!? Ridiculous.

I’d like to congratulate everyone that didn’t go, that meant Sky had to address the KO time and lack of crowd live on air because we’ll continue to eat the TV-shit if we merrily carry on with a ‘wasn’t the Boxing Day 8pm ko fantastic as I got a lovely bus with plenty of room from my local Sainsburys’.

I would imagine because most Sunday games aren’t followed by a Bank Holiday. The thinking may be that anyone traveling from afar can have a long lie in the next day. There is a logic but I’m not defending it. The scheduling just reminds us that fans are incidental at PL level. For all the wringing of hands on here about the attendance, I’m afraid those concerns are not shared by the decision makers.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You do appreciate the transport generally went smoothly because only half the crowd turned up? I’m days of yore, Boxing Day was a bumper crowd, now - because of television - it’s damage limitation. Modern football. Right there.

Spot on.

 

[chaileyjem]

No, there weren't.

There were huge gaps at West Ham and Spurs and without doubt Covid played its part there because of the Omicron rates in London. On MotD Norwich and Villa looked full (or at least Norwich was until they conceded their third). Man City is never full, they proudly sing about it, but was about normal for their games unless the upper tiers and camera side were empty (and you won't know that any more than me). In other words, outside of London, it was fine.

The 8pm kick off was directly responsible for an awful attendance and, frankly I'm glad not everyone trotted along like sheep and astounded that some football fans are still defending the indefensible.

Of course there were plenty who couldn’t come cos it was 8pm on a Boxing Day. But Then why were there so many absentees at Wolves. ? And thanks for comparing me to a sheep.

(And to be clear - I don’t think the game should have been at 8pm on Boxing Day )

 

[Springal]

The facts speak for themselves, the club did well with what they were given, well done BHA. However it was a disaster in terms of the supporters and looked really bad there and on TV. Like you I am sorry that genuine supporters missed out, we are the most important factor in our clubs and yet, we are often the last consideration, if indeed any consideration is given at all.

It’s a shame the opportunity wasn’t used as a protest though. Singing , banners etc. Sky probably benefit more from fans not being there and watching on tv than being in the ground. Probably 15k more fans watching it than if the stadium was full, looks better to advertisers in terms of viewing figures sadly. Sadly we all complain about it - yet I bet many of us still pay them £70+ a month…

Glad to see the FSA raised the issue but I doubt anything will change, we just need to hope it’s not us again next time

 

[Baldseagull]

Of course there were plenty who couldn’t come cos it was 8pm on a Boxing Day. But Then why were there so many absentees at Wolves. ? And thanks for comparing me to a sheep.

Absentees at wolves I would say largely because of the risk of isolation for ten days after symptoms appearing if they did pick something up, which would have ****ed Christmas with families, and maybe spending cash on presents over football and booze.
Once Christmas day was out of the way, Boxing day would have been a go for me, but not at 8PM and by car, thank **** those that went saw a win.

 

[portlock seagull]

It’s a shame the opportunity wasn’t used as a protest though. Singing , banners etc. Sky probably benefit more from fans not being there and watching on tv than being in the ground. Probably 15k more fans watching it than if the stadium was full, looks better to advertisers in terms of viewing figures sadly. Sadly we all complain about it - yet I bet many of us still pay them £70+ a month…

Glad to see the FSA raised the issue but I doubt anything will change, we just need to hope it’s not us again next time

Not me, never have and never will pay Sky. Very easy to watch for free if you don’t mind Bulgarian commentary etc. Personally I improved my French watching yesterdays game as an added bonus! I absolutely have no problem watching illegal streams. Paying Sky who prevent me watching my team is the very definition of mug if you’re not bothered watching other teams. Which I’m not. But then I’m merely a legacy fan, and the game wants the likes of me gone and replaced by double-paying customers, preferably looking at their phones and placing bets whilst the game unfolds a few feet away. If they cared to look up…

 

[South west gull]

I started this thread because, when I found that there were no trains or buses, that there was a good reason to alert people to that as it would have major implications on their planning. That was correct.

I won't mention names, but there were posters in previous threads who were claiming a full or near full service on the trains would be provided which turned out to be completely pie in the sky.

If you really think that a major game, that turns out to be a sellout, that has the main source of transport removed as an option, isn't merited from discussing as it is a negative topic, then I do not understand why.

The facts speak for themselves, the club did well with what they were given, well done BHA. However it was a disaster in terms of the supporters and looked really bad there and on TV. Like you I am sorry that genuine supporters missed out, we are the most important factor in our clubs and yet, we are often the last consideration, if indeed any consideration is given at all.

Genuine supporters didn't miss out they choose for what ever reasons not to attend.there were thousands of genuine supporters in attendance last night please please please we are all Brighton supporters so let's all stick together 1 way or another.

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[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It’s a shame the opportunity wasn’t used as a protest though. Singing , banners etc. Sky probably benefit more from fans not being there and watching on tv than being in the ground. Probably 15k more fans watching it than if the stadium was full, looks better to advertisers in terms of viewing figures sadly. Sadly we all complain about it - yet I bet many of us still pay them £70+ a month…

Glad to see the FSA raised the issue but I doubt anything will change, we just need to hope it’s not us again next time

There was the odd heartfelt rendition of 'SKY TV is f****** sh**'. Sounded quite loud from where I was sat in the North. Hopefully loud enough to be heard on the telly. But as Big Bob managed to kick over the mic behind his goal earlydoors, maybe not

And congratulations to those operating the coach park last night. Considering the number of coaches shoehorned in there it all seemed to work remarkably smoothly due to the work of the club staff and the skill of the drivers. Well done!

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Genuine supporters didn't miss out they choose for what ever reasons not to attend.there were thousands of genuine supporters in attendance last night please please please we are all Brighton supporters so let's all stick together 1 way or another.

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Yes, we will stick together for the purpose of supporting our club, but that won't stop anyone from having a variety of opinions about stuff that concerns us.

I do not believe that genuine supporters didn't miss out. How can that be true for someone who doesn't have a car and doesn't live somewhere near to Brighton or near to the places Seagulls Travel pick up? There will be many thousands of supporters who will have missed out.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Absentees at wolves I would say largely because of the risk of isolation for ten days after symptoms appearing if they did pick something up, which would have ****ed Christmas with families, and maybe spending cash on presents over football and booze.
Once Christmas day was out of the way, Boxing day would have been a go for me, but not at 8PM and by car, thank **** those that went saw a win.

Exactly this. We have spent Christmas with family in Devon, and we all tested for Covid the night before we met up.

I personally gave Wolves a miss to ensure that my negative Covid status remained, as I didn't want to be the person who ruined Christmas for 6 other people. Purely Covid.

And of course, we're still away (returning today), so I wouldn't have been able to attend yesterday's game whatever the time.

The only issue the kick off time / transport situation gave me was that there was no point trying to sell or pass on my ticket, as I knew many people would be giving it a miss.

Now Christmas is done I'll be attending all home games again.