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Not all Muslims are Terrorists...
- Thread starter HampshireSeagulls
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Couple of tips:
In order for this sort of binfest to be remotely entertaining for the rest of us, you have got to be far more personal. Otherwise it's just another swipe at the amoeba-brained NSC anti-muslim axis - most of whom are just incredibly bitter and beyond hope.
In order for this sort of binfest to be remotely entertaining for the rest of us, you have got to be far more personal. Otherwise it's just another swipe at the amoeba-brained NSC anti-muslim axis - most of whom are just incredibly bitter and beyond hope.
So long as you ignore what is happening in South America (Shining Path), South East Asia (Tamils), and former Soviet States (Chechnya), and that's before we start discussing the resurgence of WUG
Hatterlovesbrighton
something clever
That's not actually the point of the case. A hijab isn't a compulsory part of the muslim religion, but some choose to wear it. Exactly the same as the silver ring. The point is that both schools in question have established a school uniform policy that maintains it as a secular environment, whilst still allowing those who follow a religion to remain in accordance with it. The schools therefore took action against those that broke the policy.
withdeanwombat
Well-known member
Just wish we could go back 62 years and start again,using the wondertool hindsight.
Life,I suggest,would be very different.
Life,I suggest,would be very different.
Nice editing
Gerbil - sorry, yes I did change it a bit after I noticed what I'd got wrong in the first sentence. I still stand by the edited post though.
Sorry hlb, but I still do not agree with this. No, the hijab is not compulsory, but it is a recognised symbol of the religion, the chastity ring has never been recognised. Comparing the hijab to, say, wearing a cross, would be a fair comparison, but this is not.
tip top
Kandidate
Wish we could go back and use this wondertool
NMH
Banned
Could you please describe what that link is please? There's no way I'm going to open it to my p/c.
alan partridge
Active member
Lucky boy farang is the fellow albion fan beating, young women abusing on NSC charmer also known as Oceanic and Terrance Dandy isn't he?
You'd think someone who writes such utter f***ing rubbish HAS to be joking, but then you see how worked up he gets and you realise its not a joke. Depressingly. Comes across as a f***ing scum bag who'd tell you white was black rather than admit he doesn't know what the frig he's talking about.
You'd think someone who writes such utter f***ing rubbish HAS to be joking, but then you see how worked up he gets and you realise its not a joke. Depressingly. Comes across as a f***ing scum bag who'd tell you white was black rather than admit he doesn't know what the frig he's talking about.
Hatterlovesbrighton
something clever
Recognised by who? I'm sure the christian's that wear the chastity rings consider it a symbol of their religion, just like those that wear the hijab consider it a symbol of their religion.
Who decides what is part of a religion? - Those practising it
Who decides what a child should wear at school - The school
Really? Not the "organisation" behind the religion? I was under the impression that the cross was recognised as a symbol of Christianity because the Church deemed it so.
If any individual is free to proclaim anything as a symbol of religion, then we're back to my earlier post making the (obviously ridiculous, but relevant here) claim that I could decide bermuda shorts are a symbol of my religion and take my workplace to court for the right to wear them.
The line clearly has to be drawn somewhere, and while I personally believe that no allowances should be made for any religion (I don't believe your personal beliefs are a license to break any law/rule, whatever your particular beliefs are), a sensible place might be those symbols/objects that are "officially" recognised by the organised religion.
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Hatterlovesbrighton
something clever
So can you find me a list of symbols/objects that are "officially" recognised by an organised religion. What about different denominations/sects. Do they have different lists?
Not all Germans were nazis.But the fact they turned a blind eye to Hitler was shameful.Most muslims leaders do not do enough to speak out.And most Muslims still preach to hate our way of life.
Find you a list? Can I take that to mean that you really do believe it's up to any individual to claim religious symbology, that you're disagree with the idea that there are "recognised symbols"? I could really try the bermuda shorts idea here in my office?
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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That is the biggest load of generalised tripe on this board for a long while.
Hatterlovesbrighton
something clever
How do you think religious symbols begun. Do you think a church committee decided that the cross was the best symbol for christians and then told everyone that it was the symbol they had to wear. No, someone chose it as a symbol and other people liked it so it became popular.
You could try wearing bermuda shorts if you believed that it was part of your religion to do so. Maybe they would call you crazy and a freak, but maybe other people would decide that they too liked the shorts as a symbol of their religion.
I don't disagree that there are recognised symbols, what I disagree with is that there is some sort of pecking order of symbols/objects that are more part of a religion than others. Still want to see a list.
Of course a written list doesn't exist. Nothing is written on stone even within denominations, even on the big issues (see the Anglican church pulling itself apart over homosexuality). If it did, the church wouldn't be able to cry discrimination every time an opportunity like this arose. That's one of religion's little tricks (just like the Tory party, but that's a different thread) - don't actually commit to anything exact, then you can change your mind or cry foul whenever it suits you - see this very case about the ring.
Maybe it is a case of agreeing to disagree - I think a "pecking order" of sorts does exist - in that there is a big difference between widely established symbols, and new ones jumping on the bandwagon. I do believe there is a difference between claiming a cross is a religious symbol (perhaps its presence in Churches all over the world would help there?), and claiming the same for bermuda shorts (clearly a ridiculous suggestion).
Where do/would you draw the line?
Maybe it is a case of agreeing to disagree - I think a "pecking order" of sorts does exist - in that there is a big difference between widely established symbols, and new ones jumping on the bandwagon. I do believe there is a difference between claiming a cross is a religious symbol (perhaps its presence in Churches all over the world would help there?), and claiming the same for bermuda shorts (clearly a ridiculous suggestion).
Where do/would you draw the line?
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sten_super
Brain Surgeon
I don't really know where to start.
Muslim leaders are fairly frequently coming out and saying how shocked and appalled they are at these acts of violence. What exactly do you expect of them? What is enough?
The last sentence you have written, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your complete and total ignorance. How can you live in a fantasy so far from reality?