[Football] North Stand Scudmore Protest

[Weststander]

I'm finding some of these comments hilarious. So, foreigners are coming over here and paying exorbitant money to watch Brighton players, just because the players come from where they come from. And meanwhile we are complaining about being overcharged.

FFS.

I missed the game yesterday as Mrs T had us booked to see Henning Wayne* in London. This thread has me thinking about some of his quips about the Brits. For example, in Germany to become a plumber you need to take a load of exams and qualify via a national scheme of standards. In the UK, a 17 year old boy can wake up one morning and simply 'self-identify' as a plumber . . . . .

**** me. We are in the premier league, sold out every week, 30,000 gates, and people are saying it isn't like it used to be back in the good old days. I presume this is the 1960s, before we joined the Common Market, when every working class family could afford to rock up each other weekend, pay on the gate and stand together (over a blazing fire, toasting marsh mallows) and watch as their team of lads, all born no more than 1 mile from the (fabulous) stadium supplied 90 minutes of rich entertainment. And after the game all the kiddies were handed free replica shirts before their subsidised journey home.

How did we ever win the war?



*yes, yes. I know how to spell it.

I love Henning, a brilliant comedian.

Ironically in Germany, the cheapest s/t’s at Bayern cost €140 and at Dortmund €215 for standing, €340 and €398 for seats. To watch high quality players. Clubs of Brighton’s size cost €250 to €290 for a seated s/t.

In an expensive, high standard of living nation. None of the “well the opera or theatre costs just as much” comparisons.

 

[portlock seagull]

I applaud their efforts, What’s wrong with criticising the cost of football. Everyone agrees it’s way too much and fans are exploited even if willing so. Well done NSK. Will have represented thousands of people unable to afford going yesterday.

 

[goldstoneseagull]

Respect to Huddersfield in low season ticket prices at £249 per adult.

How much financial damage would it do the Albion to have large zones capped at say £300?

I think people would have less opposition to high ticket prices if the clubs were reliant on the income, e.g Championship and below.

As illustrated half way down the page on the link below, PL clubs are far from reliant on ticketing income, older article but you can find other data.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44850888 (bar chart under broadcast bonanza).

It is true that this is far from a new phenomena and fans have allowed themselves to be taken for granted from since the inception of the PL and it is also true people who vote with their feet will have their positions replaced.

However, this does not address the point that the club could do more to promote a portion of tickets for those on low-incomes to mitigate the problem of football being a rich mans game. This coupled with the need to promote youth attendance (if they continue to ignore likely will hit the clubs as some point) and the ease at which football can be streamed it is in some ways surprising the clubs have not sought to address this further.

 

[jonnyrovers]

Why were two Ajax fans watching two ex-PSV players? Very odd. I can’t imagine two Albion fans going to a foreign country to watch two Palace players.

Yeah good point. They were staying with a cousin in Brighton so maybe it’s more to do with that.

The point of my post was the disproportionate cost of attending matches in countries with similar average incomes and standards of living. A few have posted ‘get over it’ comments, or ‘it isn’t the golden olden days’. I happily pay for my 2 season tickets because if I enjoy the experience I’m getting value for money. It bugs me that if my wife & 2 daughters want to join us for a game (Boxing Day Arsenal) it averages £100 extra. That’s out of reach for a lot of fans. The average cost of watching football has risen quicker than average income.

 

[JBizzle]

Might be slightly naive but the Premier League doesn't set prices for tickets, the club does and ours have been comparatively high since we moved to the Amex.

If anything, the vast volumes of cash flowing into the club's coffers should allow prices lower. Our club chooses not to trickle it down. It's the one and only gripe I have with our club, otherwise it's incredibly well run.

That said, Scudamore and his Premier League revolution will be the death of the game in England and will rightly take the blame for many other issues.

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[Weststander]

I think people would have less opposition to high ticket prices if the clubs were reliant on the income, e.g Championship and below.

As illustrated half way down the page on the link below, PL clubs are far from reliant on ticketing income, older article but you can find other data.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44850888 (bar chart under broadcast bonanza).

It is true that this is far from a new phenomena and fans have allowed themselves to be taken for granted from since the inception of the PL and it is also true people who vote with their feet will have their positions replaced.

However, this does not address the point that the club could do more to promote a portion of tickets for those on low-incomes to mitigate the problem of football being a rich mans game. This coupled with the need to promote youth attendance (if they continue to ignore likely will hit the clubs as some point) and the ease at which football can be streamed it is in some ways surprising the clubs have not sought to address this further.

summed up well.

With the high pricing having led to an evolution in the fanbase attending games now. The low paid and genuinely unemployed, have been squeezed out, replaced by more folk who have good incomes. All well and good some people say, the games changed and we now watch world class players in great stadia. But the PL club financial model is not dependent on high ticket pricing and what a shame to see lifelong supporters from the ‘wrong side of the tracks’ squeezed out. Not an anti Albion point, but aimed at most PL clubs.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I have been looking into bringing my children to a few individual games as my son (7) has started saying he wants to go to watch some professional games and my daughter (9) has said she would like to come along also.

I may have got this wrong, but to apply for tickets we will first require Bronze Membership for me, plus x2 Junior Seagulls memberships.

One game I had been considering was the Everton game on 29th December. The tickets would cost £98 plus the memberships (admittedly a 'one-off' cost every season) would add another £44. That would make access to this game alone an eyewatering £142.

For that reason, I'm out

We're going to Cambridge United instead

Some of the games offer extra tickets to season ticket holders, so maybe ask someone on here you know for guest tickets, rather than buying bronze membership?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I love Henning, a brilliant comedian.

Ironically in Germany, the cheapest s/t’s at Bayern cost €140 and at Dortmund €215 for standing, €340 and €398 for seats. To watch high quality players. Clubs of Brighton’s size cost €250 to €290 for a seated s/t.

In an expensive, high standard of living nation. None of the “well the opera or theatre costs just as much” comparisons.

Also, don't forget, we also have a need to keep the yobs out, and to pander to our sense that we are lucky to be allowed in.

Personally I'd like to see really cheap tickets for any televised game. That includes 'money back' for ST holders. Or perhaps.....cheaper season tickets.

However, with the Amex full every week, it isn't going to happen. We don't live in communist China, after all.



Anyway, lower the ticket prices too much and I may end up with Das Reich sitting next to me. You have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Tell me about it, cost a fortune to see Steps reunion tour earlier this year ::

Five? Six? Seven? EIGHT?

 

[Ludensian Gull]

More to the point......how much does a Premier league supporter have to earn to be able to go to a match?

A lot more than I do unfortunately

 

[brightn'ove]

It doesn't matter how much money there is in the PL, it doesn't help the average fan. Ordered a shirt for my son for Xmas yesterday, £53, we're getting milked for every penny...

That's not really a PL problem. Replica shirts across Europe usually cost around €80-100.

 

[ac gull]

To answer El Pres question re who / what is average fan in PL

… when walking back to Bridge car park yesterday when got to road by car park was accosted by a bloke with large BHA brown paper bag from shop who may look like any other fan …

… he then asked me where the train station is … ( having walked straight past it )

… oh and he was clearly from USA re his accent

… 18 years ago at Halifax away the average fan was somewhat different … and there weren't very many either

… all about "global reach" now

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It raises an interesting question. What/who is the average fan in the Premier League?

over 50 with a disposable income
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That's not really a PL problem. Replica shirts across Europe usually cost around €80-100.

https://www.getthelabel.com/c/c.p.-company
regards
DR

 

[Wardy's twin]

Thing is as a STH at our club your monthly DD can be about half the monthly cost of owning an iphone

or 4 times more than using an older phone and with a cheap sim only deal... my 3 gb of data sim is £8 a month and i have a one+ phone which i paid £140 3 years ago...

 

[Weststander]

over 50 with a disposable income
regards
DR

It’s certainly NOT a parent on very low pay with a couple of kids going with him or her. At most PL stadia that is.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It’s certainly NOT a parent on very low pay with a couple of kids going with him or her. At most PL stadia that is.

its becoming more and more like a trip to the theatre imho , i'm surprised the club aren't dishing out rugs to keep your legs warm in certain parts of the ground , the soul has fallen out of the game never to return
regards
DR

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Thing is as a STH at our club your monthly DD can be about half the monthly cost of owning an iphone

That's why I have a ST and no iPhone!

 

[LlcoolJ]

It is contractual though as the contract was agreed by the remuneration committee.

If Scudamore went to Sky or another broadcaster and used his inside knowledge to negotiate down a contract and/or headhunt EPL staff with knowledge and skills it would cost clubs far more than £83,000 a season, so that's why they did it.

Why doesn't anyone understand this?

 

[El Presidente]

over 50 with a disposable income
regards
DR

I’ll see you at Huddersfield then