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[Albion] No VAR tonight



Harry Wilson's tackle

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Not common knowledge here so thanks for the heads up. Will be nice to be able to celebrate properly and also abuse the ref properly when he balls up. Nostalgic.
I didn't realise you're a Chelsea fan ???
 








Bodian

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Despite the fact that if we had had VAR tonight they would have been down to 10 men and/or their second goal may have stood - it was still far better without it.
 


Bozza

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The goal was very tight. They'd have checked it and got their lines out.

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Sheebo

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The goal was very tight. They'd have checked it and got their lines out.

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Yes I thought at the time it looked off but they showed no angle. Second wouldn’t have happened if they had 10 and weren’t already one up. Therefore I’m calling we were robbed by this rule 😀
 


Sheebo

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As you can see without VAR, the decisions will go with the bigger brand home team, VAR was brought in because refs will always favour them. We should have been playing 10 men in the second half and we would have won - a rank injustice
 








studio150

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From where we were sitting chilwell looked to have handled late on as well.
Should have been sent off with two yellow cards for time wasting, can only assume that the ref didn't get the memo that Chelsea are no longer a top six side and therefore these rules do apply to them.
 


WhingForPresident

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It felt weird watching it knowing we didn't have a 'safety net'.

The refereeing was awful, as usual, and I do get the feeling they've become too reliant on VAR bailing them out if they drop a clanger. Ugochuku was lucky not to get a straight red, let alone a second yellow, let alone even give away a free kick. No way VAR wouldn't have intervened on that one.

The ball also 'went out' twice when we were attacking (Mitoma first half, Joao Pedro second), despite the fact it clearly didn't. It's literally impossible for the lino on the other side of the pitch to see that, he just went with the shouts and took a guess. You could probably argue the second one Jackson 'scored' may have been onside had VAR been there as well. Equally the actual goal may have been off.

Typical double standards that Chilwell got away with throwing the ball away and chewing the refs ear off every two minutes and Cucurella, Caicedo and others were allowed to gesticulate and scream at officials without repercussion.
 
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trueblue

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As you can see without VAR, the decisions will go with the bigger brand home team, VAR was brought in because refs will always favour them. We should have been playing 10 men in the second half and we would have won - a rank injustice
VAR gets on my tits, despite really wanting it to be brought in. But, yes, last night was a reminder of the reality before it existed. Shocking decision not to give their player a second booking and home crowd helping them get free-kicks in every 50/50 tangle. I’d also like to know the difference between Pervis waving an imaginary yellow after a bad challenge (automatic booking) and Chilwell being right in the ref’s face ALL evening, trying to run the game and clearly asking for cards but without doing that little hand gesture. That’s fine apparently.
 






Bozza

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As you can see without VAR, the decisions will go with the bigger brand home team, VAR was brought in because refs will always favour them. We should have been playing 10 men in the second half and we would have won - a rank injustice
Only if it was deemed a straight red card. It could have been, but I feel it unlikely.

If the VAR ref determined it wasn't a straight red, even if he felt it should have been a yellow, then the decision would not have been changed.

That one was entirely on the on-field ref - it was a clear yellow all day long.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Only if it was deemed a straight red card. It could have been, but I feel it unlikely.

If the VAR ref determined it wasn't a straight red, even if he felt it should have been a yellow, then the decision would not have been changed.

That one was entirely on the on-field ref - it was a clear yellow all day long.
I think the same as you, but it would have been a really interesting case because its borderline red, would certainly have had the game stopped while they looked at it, do they talk to the ref in his earphone too? There's definitely a case to send him to the monitor, and maybe they'd have decided a soft straight red was better than allowing him to stay on the pitch with no yellow.
 


dazzer6666

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Only if it was deemed a straight red card. It could have been, but I feel it unlikely.

If the VAR ref determined it wasn't a straight red, even if he felt it should have been a yellow, then the decision would not have been changed.

That one was entirely on the on-field ref - it was a clear yellow all day long.
I’m not so sure……….junior messaged me at the time suggesting it might have been a red.
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tronnogull

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Their goal may well have been offside. Their disallowed goal may not have been. Doubt that a straight red or a handball penalty would have been given.

Even if all these had gone against us in this particular match, it was a delight to have linos signalling straight away and for no VAR to reduce spontaneity.

The game is much much better without VAR and the poor decisions are no less poor.
 


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