No points in F1 this season

[Djmiles]

I will laugh my arse off if Ferrari turn out to be the consistent 2nd placers this season and would have walked away with the title, but don't get it because they didn't convert any of those to wins.

You can bet your life that if Ferrarri constantly finish 2nd every race, they will change it back next year.

 

[NF9]

Do Prost and Piquet now have to give their respective 1986 and 1987 championships to Mansell?
Why change a rule that works OH Hang on i know this because ferrari consistently win the most races

 

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Under this new rule we would have had a different world champion in 3 of the last 9 seasons:

• 
  [*]Massa would have won instead of Hamilton last year;
  
  [*]Hamilton would have won in 2007 (Hamilton 6 wins, 109 points, Massa 6 wins 84 points, Raikkonen 4 wins, 110 points);
• Alonso would have won regardless in 2006;
• Alonso would have won regardless in 2005;
• Schumacher would have won regardless in 2004;
• Schumacher would have won regardless in 2003;
  [*]Jean Pablo Montoya would have won instead of Schumacher in 2002;
• Schumacher would have won regardless in 2001;
• Schumacher would have won regardless in 2000.

 

[Gritt23]

It sounds absolutely crap to me. Surely this just encourages one of teeh most unedifying acts whereby a driver is instructed to allow his team-mate to pass and win the race.

So, I'd imagine that although they will deny it, Ferrari and others will already be sitting down and deciding who wins if they are hoding 1st and 2nd with a lap to go in Australia.

This just plays into the hands of the strongest team, as Massa and Kimi will be 1st and 2nd far more often than Kubica and erm , his team-mate. So Ferrari will be able to control teh number of wins much more often than BMW.

How is this better for the sport?

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

So team orders from race 1 ?

Imagine the scenario in Austraila at the weekend, a team's No 1 driver in 2nd place with a couple of laps to go, with the team No 2 leading ....

They gonna fake a problem in the No 2 car to let No 1 take the now all important win ?

I always thought a season long "championship" in any sport was all about consistency. Winning when you can, but scrapping for whatever you can when the win, for whatever reason, was not for you.

It's now like a cup tie, winner takes all.

I think it will be a disaster - time will tell.

 

[Djmiles]

There was never a problem with the old points system in the first place. Oh wait, yes there was. It stopped Ferrari winning the Championship

 

[NF9]

There was never a problem with the old points system in the first place. Oh wait, yes there was. It stopped Ferrari winning the Championship

Agreed
I think that the points system was better, as it rewarded both speed and consistency over the entire season

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

I can also see more "do or die" manuvoures in the dying laps as teams will be desperate for the win - the sensible "2nd place will do for me" driver will get no reward for his sensible driving.

Can see some lonely 3rd place runners being gifted a win as the front two tangle on the last corner.

Utter nonsense!

 

[sten_super]

I think someone may have mentioned this already, so apologies if I'm repeating, but what about the driver who has a problem in qualifying or the early stages of the race, and ends up at the back? Previously it was great fun watching them trying to carve their way through the field to end the day in the points. What is the point of that now? The chances of them getting even onto the podium are slim, and chances of winning are practically zero, so why bother?

 

[JJ McClure]

Or lead to some deliberate Prost/Senna type incidents where they "accidently" crash into someone just to stop them winning.

 

[NF9]

I think someone may have mentioned this already, so apologies if I'm repeating, but what about the driver who has a problem in qualifying or the early stages of the race, and ends up at the back? Previously it was great fun watching them trying to carve their way through the field to end the day in the points. What is the point of that now? The chances of them getting even onto the podium are slim, and chances of winning are practically zero, so why bother?

Thats a good point
But then again nobody is allowed to take over eachother nowadays the stewards dont like it remember

 

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Thats a good point
But then again nobody is allowed to take over eachother nowadays the stewards dont like it remember

So, in a nutshell, they put in a new set of aero rule this season to 'encourage overtaking'. Then they undo all this good work by ensuring that only first place means anything.

 

[NF9]

So, in a nutshell, they put in a new set of aero rule this season to 'encourage overtaking'. Then they undo all this good work by ensuring that only first place means anything.

Totally outragous yet Correct Answer

 

[Gritt23]

So, when the Championship leader roars off the line 5 races in, and his team-mate is holding shotgun behind, the gap to the leader grows and grows, a situation that happens quite often. As of this season the race really will have ABSOLUTELY no interest whatsoever, as cheering a driver up from 5th to say 3rd will mean diddly squat for the championship.

I'm NOT someone who dismisses F1 as a boring event, watching the leader disappear into the distance, because there is so much going on down the field, crucial points being won and lost, but this coming season could prove to be unbelievably dull on a regular basis.

 

[Djmiles]

I'm NOT someone who dismisses F1 as a boring event, watching the leader disappear into the distance, because there is so much going on down the field, crucial points being won and lost, but this coming season could prove to be unbelievably dull on a regular basis.

That's my fear as well. McLaren have said they won't be competitive until Barcelona, so there's every chance Ferrari could have 4/5 wins under their belt already. Meaning Hamliton would need to win way over half of the remaining races to win the title.

Punish the consistent point scoring drivers, favour the inconsistent drivers who win a race and crash out the next two. It doesn't make sense.

 

[sten_super]

So, when the Championship leader roars off the line 5 races in, and his team-mate is holding shotgun behind, the gap to the leader grows and grows, a situation that happens quite often. As of this season the race really will have ABSOLUTELY no interest whatsoever, as cheering a driver up from 5th to say 3rd will mean diddly squat for the championship.

I'm NOT someone who dismisses F1 as a boring event, watching the leader disappear into the distance, because there is so much going on down the field, crucial points being won and lost, but this coming season could prove to be unbelievably dull on a regular basis.

Following on from this, not only is it a crap idea, it's also an incredibly HALF-ARSED idea. Apparently wins only dictate who wins the title, the remainder of the positions are dependent upon points. What?! So (say) Hamilton wins 6 races with the remainder low finishes, Alonso wins 5 races but low finishes the rest of the time, Kubica wins 1 race but gets plenty of second places in the remainder. Alonso, despite very nearly winning the Championship, isn't guaranteed 2nd place? Where the hell is the logic in that?

 

[crasher]

Can someone enlighten me - WHY are they biased towards Ferrari?

I'm not arguing (don't know enough about it) buy why do they want Ferrari to win the title as opposed to any of the other teams?

 

[NF9]

Lets hope if lewis dosent compete this year then button in his brawn car can destroy ferrari

 

[Skint Gull]

worst - idea - in - f1 - EVER

 

[NF9]

worst - idea - in - f1 - EVER

Agreed