[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Happy Exile]

3. Becoming an MP?

Will be interesting to see the state of play going into the next general election

It will indeed. It's interesting that despite multiples more exposure, airtime, money and resources than the Greens Farage and co have only managed to match them on number of seats. Total vote is higher but that doesn't take into account tactical voting taking Green voters to Lib Dem and Labour (nor does it take into account how little coverage and free publicity the Greens get by comparison).

Farage's success in getting publicity and driving Brexit seem inversely proportional to his democratic successes. I wonder what the country would be like if we had someone doing that but as a force for unity and common good instead.

 

[Jackthelad]

The C4 doc did a fair amount damage, the was well played by C4 is was brilliantly timed. I expected Reform to do slightly better than they have. I don't blame right-wingers for voting them, as the right don't really have a voice but The reform party much like UKIP is riddled with plonkers and BNP types, and it will end in tears for them. Reform will go the same way as UKIP did.

 

[TomandJerry]

 

[Berty23]

It will be interesting to see if they now get properly questioned about the fairy stories in their plans for budget, cuts and charging for the nhs. It is very easy to be the mouth protest but I wonder how far it can go before people realise it will crash the economy.

 

[beorhthelm]

The C4 doc did a fair amount damage, the was well played by C4 is was brilliantly timed. I expected Reform to do slightly better than they have. I don't blame right-wingers for voting them, as the right don't really have a voice but The reform party much like UKIP is riddled with plonkers and BNP types, and it will end in tears for them. Reform will go the same way as UKIP did.

there isn't an end point for Reform like there was for UKIP. once they had and won the vote, the purpose UKIP evaporated and their vote along with it. now there's a more nebulous "fix Britain" which is the same objective (different means) as the other parties. i'm afraid they may become a standard part of politics, though their voets dispersed across the country means not likely to make much head way in seats.

 

[peterward]

It will indeed. It's interesting that despite multiples more exposure, airtime, money and resources than the Greens Farage and co have only managed to match them on number of seats. Total vote is higher but that doesn't take into account tactical voting taking Green voters to Lib Dem and Labour (nor does it take into account how little coverage and free publicity the Greens get by comparison).

Farage's success in getting publicity and driving Brexit seem inversely proportional to his democratic successes. I wonder what the country would be like if we had someone doing that but as a force for unity and common good instead.

as much as 4 seats for Reform is too many, the fact is, its more a symptom of our fatally flawed election system than any true refelction of the country as a whole.

Tories got over 2/3 of Labour vote total and little over 1/4 of their number of seats.

Reform got 600k more votes than Lib Dems but only 1/20th of their seats.

Yep, thats the system, and in reforms case theyre wont be many crying eyes but its in no way representative democracy

 

[Berty23]

How will Farage cope with having to be transparent with his finances? Will he play ball or refuse and leave Parliament and then cry establishment stitch up?

 

[Baldseagull]

there isn't an end point for Reform like there was for UKIP. once they had and won the vote, the purpose UKIP evaporated and their vote along with it. now there's a more nebulous "fix Britain" which is the same objective (different means) as the other parties. i'm afraid they may become a standard part of politics, though their voets dispersed across the country means not likely to make much head way in seats.

You are right that there is no end point for reform. Very hard to predict if they will grow beyond this though, it will depend on how the Tory party reacts to the defeat, and how their backers react.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Can I just clarify - when Putin invades, we will be placating him by giving him Clacton, Boston, Skegness, Yarmouth and Ashfield?

 

[raymondo]

It will indeed. It's interesting that despite multiples more exposure, airtime, money and resources than the Greens Farage and co have only managed to match them on number of seats. Total vote is higher but that doesn't take into account tactical voting taking Green voters to Lib Dem and Labour (nor does it take into account how little coverage and free publicity the Greens get by comparison).

Farage's success in getting publicity and driving Brexit seem inversely proportional to his democratic successes. I wonder what the country would be like if we had someone doing that but as a force for unity and common good instead.

As per my teenage son...Farage has been all over tictoc so he's pretty much the main politician he's heard of during this election...and he's funny apparently.
However... Raymondo junior did offer that he thinks he may be a racist.

 

[TomandJerry]

Can I just clarify - when Putin invades, we will be placating him by giving him Clacton, Boston, Skegness, Yarmouth and Ashfield?

I can't imagine Putin arriving in Skegness and be left feeling content, unless of course he went for a jolly at Butlins

 

[peterward]

Can I just clarify - when Putin invades, we will be placating him by giving him Clacton, Boston, Skegness, Yarmouth and Ashfield?

The Skegness peoples republic

 

[stewart12]

How will Farage cope with having to be transparent with his finances? Will he play ball or refuse and leave Parliament and then cry establishment stitch up?

"Nigel there's a payment here from a Mr V Putin, care to explain?"

 

[TomandJerry]

The man of the people (Clacton) to address the nation

 

[Eeyore]

Can I just clarify - when Putin invades, we will be placating him by giving him Clacton, Boston, Skegness, Yarmouth and Ashfield?

In fairness, having been to Yarmouth and Skegness they do seem to be stuck in Soviet era.

If the boats land at the pier in Yarmouth they can pop in to see Jim Davison and Chubby Brown at the theatre.

I actually rather enjoyed my cricket tour there. But I think it was the company and the crazy golf.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

As per my teenage son...Farage has been all over tictoc so he's pretty much the main politician he's heard of during this election...and he's funny apparently.
However... Raymondo junior did offer that he thinks he may be a racist.

Had a brief conversation with 15yo Bobkin Jnr about Farage last night. His opinion is that he and his mates think 'Nige' is an utter bellend.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Getting heckled at his press conference. They kick one out and another appears.

 

[BBassic]

Getting heckled at his press conference. They kick one out and another appears.

He's such an infuriating git. The most infuriating thing is he's exactly the sort of Trumpian type who will continually win people over. The only outcome of all this shouting at him is a swelling of his support

 

[peterward]

Getting heckled at his press conference. They kick one out and another appears.

I just saw that one of the 4 reform MPs was former Stains chairman Rupert Lowe.

If you ever need another reason, its right there

 

[KZNSeagull]

He's such an infuriating git. The most infuriating thing is he's exactly the sort of Trumpian type who will continually win people over. The only outcome of all this shouting at him is a swelling of his support

and his nether regions