You’re willfully misunderstanding.
Fascists always go after intellectuals. I wonder if Russia is giving him tips on how to do it?
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[News] Nigel Farage and Reform
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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Fascists always go after intellectuals. I wonder if Russia is giving him tips on how to do it?
aolstudios
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He's often stated his admiration for Putin & Arron Banks is backed by him, so little doubt if any
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Could be. For many people on the left of centre, either Libdems or labour are acceptable alternatives to the Tories. But on the right, Reform is being positioned as an anti-Tory vote, they won't coalesce around a candidate best placed to defeat the centre-left candidate.
But I do believe that Farage's takeover of Reform is limiting their ceiling to the 10-15%, whereas if they had continued on their path of being a right-wing party with policies on all areas they could have built to a greater level and properly challenged the Tories rather than being a spoiler.
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Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
It not stupid. It’s criminal. A deliberate strategy so that the evil US model can be introduced. It will be better under labour (or LD or Greens because you can’t make it any worse.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Farage has no intention of making Reform a democratic political party.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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He doesn't.
But I think he can point to the fact that the membership of the other parties isn't directly creating policy.
I don't see that political parties have to be democratic. Sometimes this can cause more trouble than it's actually worth.
However, this has to lead to questions about the source of the money behind them and how resistant this model is to changes, for example, if Tice dies, or has a massive argument with Farage about something
The front bench is not noticeably right wing as far as Tories go
It is the needless populist tory government wheezes that annoy me. Such as Brexit and Rwanda. I don't object to them for being right wing as such, and expect a Tory government to be more right wing than me, and so it goes... that's not the issue.
That said, there is a mad right wing element in the parliamentary party, Braverman, Lizzy and others who have traction with the back benches and the members. There are far more rightwing headbangers even in in HMG than there are left wing headbangers on labour's front benches. And that is a worry - when Sunk is replaced the lurch may well be to the right. The centre is weak.
And just because it is possible that Sunk may occasionally say something that is true, and do something that is decent, that does not mean that overall he isn't a useless tit.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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There's something very TINPOT about Reform UK Ltd. In what other democratic party could a person proclaim themselves leader and oust the incumbent overnight? They have several thousand members - were they consulted?
The relationship between Farage and Tice reminds me of Delboy and Rodney.
The relationship between Farage and Tice reminds me of Delboy and Rodney.
I agree. My preference is for a party to create a philosophy, policies and plans, then I will decide if want to vote for them. Even though I am a member of a party (labour) I am not so arrogant I imagine I can dictate on policy, nor do I even particularly need to have a vote on policy. If they start proposing silly bugger plans (like they have done on occasion) I will resign (as I have done once). But it could be said that to a degree the leadership is answerable to the membership, and I do get a say about who should be the leader and who who should sit on the NEC. That'll do me, and I don't pine for more nor would I weep with less.
I rather like the fact that Farage is trying to get his private company elected. The knowledge and understanding of that may focus minds. Particularly given how capricious the old fraud can be.
The problem with all this is that I find myself thinking he put people up to it. Go for the victim route. It is impossible to know what is real and what is not these days. I expect a professional camera was on him at the exact time with perfect angle etc.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Would u laugh if it was Starmer?
- Aug 24, 2020
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He’s not lovin' it: Moment Nigel Farage has McDonald’s milkshake thrown into his face while campaigning in Clacton
Nigel Farage has had a banana milkshake thrown in his face by a woman outside a pub in Clacton-on-Sea, Essex.
www.lbc.co.uk
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Would you?Would u laugh if it was Starmer?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
No …not sure why u r asking ..although predictable
US Seagull
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I keep refreshing the board, I see "BREAKING NEWS", get excited that we have a new coach, then realize that it's this f***ing thread bounced again (which I also just did)
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Policies are discussed at conference level, and members views are aired. Whether that actually dictates what the leadership do is debatable.
Donors to Reform cannot even vote for a leader.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I just thought with you asking someone, if you had? Fairs fair.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Fair enough …I just asked out of curiosity…not into throwing things at people ..
I'd suggest Sunak does - so many photos of him 'playing' football or 'pulling' a pint at a local pub - hell, filling up someone elses car at a petrol pump. He and Farage are cut from exactly the same cloth.