[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Brovion]

Then your mother clearly didn’t fit the description of the sort of behaviour I was referring to did she. You failed to mention she actually wanted to serve on the Council.

Probably more accurate to describe what I am referring to as “Dummy Candidates” (who are also real peoole btw) to avoid confusion/upset however, Paper Candidates are often fielded with no wish to be elected

Paper candidate - Wikipedia

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Dummy candidate - Wikipedia

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No need to take it so personally anyway - it was a criticism of the general practice of ‘paper candidacy’ when it is simply to increase the exposure of the Party or a means of taking votes away from genuine Candidates etc that I was making - not a comment on your specific circumstances. Smaller parties (groups like Reform ) get a disproportionate coverage of their campaign messaging by putting a ‘name’ on every ballot - I think it does a disservice to the electorate if, unlike your Mum, those ‘names’ were in name only and weren’t engaging in any other way with the electorate that they are asking votes for - it doesn’t matter if they get 3 votes - that is 3 people who are using their franchise to vote for them because they would like to be represented by them however unlikely that might be.

Yes, well I did take it personally. And there is still a huge difference between someone whose name is on the ballot, and a completely fictitious entity put on the paper with the sole aim of fooling the public.

 

[Peteinblack]

Mr Isabel Oakeshott aka Richard Tice.

Here she is finding out she will need to be in Skegness each Friday View attachment 185415

Blimey. Now that's what's commonly known as a face like a smacked arse.

Is she sucking a lemon?

 

[nevergoagain]

Reform UK MP accused of mounting ‘witch-hunt’ against local teachers

Rupert Lowe says he has list of schools in Great Yarmouth who ‘pushed’ criticism of hard-right party to pupils

www.theguardian.com

Lists of enemies of Reform.

In this case teachers that speak against the racist party.

You know, like Russia does and the Nazis did.

Jeez that's a hell of a take. Enemies of Reform, Racist party, Russia and Nazis comparisons all in one post when the guy has actually said that he's got a list of teachers that have been "allegedly" making negative comments regarding Reform. Now I'll say it again, I'm not a reform supporter before there's another stupid pile on. That said no teachers should be directly passing on their own political views on ANY party to any student as gospel.

I also really hoped now that the election is over we might lose some of this really awful language and aggressive vitriol that's become so prevalent on here. Labour have won, I accept that completely and I wish them well because a change is required and fresh ideas welcome.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tice

Mr Isabel Oakeshott aka Richard Tice.

Here she is finding out she will need to be in Skegness each Friday View attachment 185415

Sorry - dim of me. I know who Tice is, but had somehow missed that he was actually standing himself.
who is the final ****, then.

The Robbie Williams of the band?

 

[Cordwainer]

Blimey. Now that's what's commonly known as a face like a smacked arse.

Is she sucking a lemon?

Maybe only on his birthday.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Jeez that's a hell of a take. Enemies of Reform, Racist party, Russia and Nazis comparisons all in one post when the guy has actually said that he's got a list of teachers that have been "allegedly" making negative comments regarding Reform. Now I'll say it again, I'm not a reform supporter before there's another stupid pile on. That said no teachers should be directly passing on their own political views on ANY party to any student as gospel.

I also really hoped now that the election is over we might lose some of this really awful language and aggressive vitriol that's become so prevalent on here. Labour have won, I accept that completely and I wish them well because a change is required and fresh ideas welcome.

Sorry … what! You did just listen to the leader of Reform using his maiden speech to slag off the old speaker.

 

[nevergoagain]

Sorry … what! You did just listen to the leader of Reform using his maiden speech to slag off the old speaker.

Yes I did, but what's that got to do with what I posted ?. His speech was stupid yes but has nothing to do with my post.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Sorry - dim of me. I know who Tice is, but had somehow missed that he was actually standing himself.
who is the final ****, then.

The Robbie Williams of the band?

James McMurdock - Basildon & Thurrock
won by 98 votes after 3 recounts.

 

[Triggaaar]

Now I'll say it again, I'm not a reform supporter before there's another stupid pile on. That said no teachers should be directly passing on their own political views on ANY party to any student as gospel.

From listening to my children, many teachers pass on their political views to their students.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Jeez that's a hell of a take. Enemies of Reform, Racist party, Russia and Nazis comparisons all in one post when the guy has actually said that he's got a list of teachers that have been "allegedly" making negative comments regarding Reform. Now I'll say it again, I'm not a reform supporter before there's another stupid pile on. That said no teachers should be directly passing on their own political views on ANY party to any student as gospel.

I also really hoped now that the election is over we might lose some of this really awful language and aggressive vitriol that's become so prevalent on here. Labour have won, I accept that completely and I wish them well because a change is required and fresh ideas welcome.

Are you saying that schools shouldn’t hold mock elections? My school did 60 years ago.
i would’ve thought any teacher would hold discussions on racism and discrimination with pupils.

 

[rogersix]

That said no teachers should be directly passing on their own political views on ANY party to any student as gospel.

presumably, it will be very difficult for the teachers to separate racism and politics

 

[nevergoagain]

Are you saying that schools shouldn’t hold mock elections? My school did 60 years ago.
i would’ve thought any teacher would hold discussions on racism and discrimination with pupils.

Of course not, that's perfectly normal and happened at my school but the teachers facilitated, not participated.

Yes I fully expect teachers to discuss racism and discrimination but without their own political slants applied.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Of course not, that's perfectly normal and happened at my school but the teachers facilitated, not participated.

Yes I fully expect teachers to discuss racism and discrimination but without their own political slants applied.

That’s quite likely the situation here, from the article, but a parent complained, so Lowe now has a platform to whinge on.

 

[Peteinblack]

Of course not, that's perfectly normal and happened at my school but the teachers facilitated, not participated.

Yes I fully expect teachers to discuss racism and discrimination but without their own political slants applied.

But to Reform UK, and many Tories, merely being opposed to racism means that you're a Woke Leftie Commie.

As ever, those on the Right who are always complaining about 'cancel culture' are the people who want to silence views and people they disagree with.

Of course, they try to conceal their authoritarian instincts and intolerance by pretending that their objections are linked to someone's employment - "They shouldn't be allowed to say that, because they work for the BBC, in a school, or for the civil service. But people employed in the private sector, or who send their kids to private school, should be free to complain about the policies of a Labour government."

 

[nevergoagain]

That’s quite likely the situation here, from the article, but a parent complained, so Lowe now has a platform to whinge on.

That's an assumption, I didn't think we were allowed to make those on here, all hell broke loose last time.

That teachers are passing on their political views to students is nothing new, it's been happening for years. The articles states parents so more than one but let's see if anything comes of it, I suspect not but it's not a reason for people to start bandying around Nazi & Racist comments.

 

[kevo]

Pretty funny seeing Reform whining about FPTP and saying we need PR. There was a referendum on that in 2011. They are forgetting the current electoral system is the 'democratic will of the people' and can never be overturned.

 

[nevergoagain]

But to Reform UK, and many Tories, merely being opposed to racism means that you're a Woke Leftie Commie.

As ever, those on the Right who are always complaining about 'cancel culture' are the people who want to silence views and people they disagree with.

Of course, they try to conceal their authoritarian instincts and intolerance by pretending that their objections are linked to someone's employment - "They shouldn't be allowed to say that, because they work for the BBC, in a school, or for the civil service. But people employed in the private sector, or who send their kids to private school, should be free to complain about the policies of a Labour government."

I agree here but I don't think it's a sizeable proportion. There are stupid people on both sides who are completely unable to have a grown up debate without resulting to throwing insults around. If you reverse (a bit) your comment and say "Many on the left think anyone who votes Tory or Reform are far right racists" then that's equally wrong IMO.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Perhaps Rupert should worry more about his business affairs than complaints from parents.

 

[bazbha]

That's an assumption, I didn't think we were allowed to make those on here, all hell broke loose last time.

That teachers are passing on their political views to students is nothing new, it's been happening for years. The articles states parents so more than one but let's see if anything comes of it, I suspect not but it's not a reason for people to start bandying around Nazi & Racist comments.

That's an assumption, I didn't think we were allowed to make those on here, all hell broke loose last time.

That teachers are passing on their political views to students is nothing new, it's been happening for years. The articles states parents so more than one but let's see if anything comes of it, I suspect not but it's not a reason for people to start bandying around Nazi & Racist comments.

Don't you know the NSC rules by now?
1. Anyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn is a Nazi and if you dare to have a different opinion than that you're a fascist.
2. Anyone who doesn't agree with the standard view on here is assumed to be racist until they prove otherwise 20 times on a daily basis.
3. People who live in Sussex have a much more enlightened view of the effects of immigration than those who live in areas most affected by it.
4. The Guardian is the beacon of truth and should be quoted during any debate. Any other publication is misinformation.
5. Anyone who doesn't agree with the standard view on here is clearly thick and manipulated by the "right wing media".
I'm sure there's a few more but I'm just a fat lazy gammon who is too thick to think of any more

 

[Thunder Bolt]

In the interests of fairness, 15 candidates have been found to be real.