Nicola Sturgeeon.

[Lincoln Imp]

Everything depends on how the Brexit talks go and whether, against the Spanish odds, she can get a promise from the EU.

It's a long shot for sure, but she has my support this time round, as does Ms O'Neill. My views changed on June 24.

 

[Eeyore]

Who will PAY for the WALL ?

 

[blue'n'white]

OK the stupid woman wants another referendum because she didn't win - just say for argument's sake that she gets one and just say that she wins - surely the people that voted to stay in the Union would then have a case to demand a third referendum just to put their case again. And so it would go on ad infinitum. Or is it "We're going to go on till I win and then we'll stop" ?
You don't like the result of the first referendum - hard luck. Much like the Brexit one

 

[whitelion]

Who will PAY for the WALL ?

Thought the Romans already had.

 

[mickybha]

Nicola Sturgeon as a young man

 

[CHAPPERS]

do we have to start censoring Lewis Caroll too? are any idioms with possible link to real events now to be struck from usage?

You see nothing wrong with the headline? Nothing at all? Calling the FM of Scotland treacherous is fine?

 

[Albumen]

Her party’s manifesto for the last Scottish election gives her an evident mandate: it would hold another referendum “if there is a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will”.

I'm not sure anyone saying she shouldn't has an argument. As an article put it today, the UK is being dragged under and it's time for Scotland to cut the rope.

 

[Titanic]

Her party’s manifesto for the last Scottish election gives her an evident mandate: it would hold another referendum “if there is a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will”.

I'm not sure anyone saying she shouldn't has an argument. As an article put it today, the UK is being dragged under and it's time for Scotland to cut the rope.

She may well have a mandate... but she doesn't have the authority to deliver it.

 

[Albumen]

She may well have a mandate... but she doesn't have the authority to deliver it.

She has he authority to request one, to Scottish Parliament. So there's no beef to be had with her.

 

[beorhthelm]

Who will PAY for the WALL ?

National Trust

 

[GJN1]

OK the stupid woman wants another referendum because she didn't win - just say for argument's sake that she gets one and just say that she wins - surely the people that voted to stay in the Union would then have a case to demand a third referendum just to put their case again. And so it would go on ad infinitum. Or is it "We're going to go on till I win and then we'll stop" ?
You don't like the result of the first referendum - hard luck. Much like the Brexit one

You lost me at 'stupid woman'. She's far from that.

 

[Albumen]

You lost me at 'stupid woman'. She's far from that.

And I doubt he'd start with 'OK the stupid man' when referring to a male politician.

 

[beorhthelm]

You lost me at 'stupid woman'. She's far from that.

gender irrelevant, i'd call her stupid, she's setup a lose/lose scenario. if she loses the indy referendum the issue is dead and probably her political career too. if she wins, Scotland would be out of the EU anyway, along with her political career when this dawns on the Scots*. and we could have a better deal than she expect, or possibly even still in with extending negotiations.

to come out on top she has to first win then second hope some sort of fast track, rule bending membership application is delivered by the EU in 2-4 years, and no one black balls the application.

*the Scots are more savvy than this, they'll see the problem immediately and vote to stay in the union.

 

[Hillian1]

 

[blue'n'white]

And I doubt he'd start with 'OK the stupid man' when referring to a male politician.

Actually he would !!


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[GJN1]

gender irrelevant, i'd call her stupid, she's setup a lose/lose scenario. if she loses the indy referendum the issue is dead and probably her political career too. if she wins, Scotland would be out of the EU anyway, along with her political career when this dawns on the Scots*. and we could have a better deal than she expect, or possibly even still in with extending negotiations.

to come out on top she has to first win then second hope some sort of fast track, rule bending membership application is delivered by the EU in 2-4 years, and no one black balls the application.

*the Scots are more savvy than this, they'll see the problem immediately and vote to stay in the union.

But what do you expect her to do? Really? Sit quietly by and continue to be told what to do by Westminster? That would be a dereliction of her duty as FM. Besides, nearly all of the arguments that Theresa May is advancing for Brexit are precisely the ones that Nicola Sturgeon can use for independence too.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...back-snp-scots-reject-independence-fresh-poll

Nicola Sturgeon has suffered a blow after a new poll found the majority of Scots are in favour of remaining in the United Kingdom.

 

[Titanic]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...back-snp-scots-reject-independence-fresh-poll

Nicola Sturgeon has suffered a blow after a new poll found the majority of Scots are in favour of remaining in the United Kingdom.

I would merge these two threads... but it might get a bit messy....

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?349431-IndyRef2&p=7844060&viewfull=1#post7844060

 

[Triggaaar]

And surely if Scotland leaves the Union, the post Brexit rump of the UK will be seeking a free trade deal with Scotland?

No, they'll be seeking a free trade deal with us, and we'll make them pay for it.

 

[wellquickwoody]

And I doubt he'd start with 'OK the stupid man' when referring to a male politician.

Putting words into the mouths of others or not as the case maybe, how unlike you?